George Floyd Protest/Riots

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#2,726
Weezer said:
To some degree I agree, but to some degree I do not. Does racism still exist? Absolutely. It will probably always exist to some extent. Some people look for reasons to hate. But it's not even close to as prevalent as it was during MLK's time. At the very least, we try to address it when it rears its ugly head. We no longer live in a time where the murder of a black man was seen as nothing. Plenty of people have expressed outrage over how this cop treated and ultimately killed Floyd. It hasn't been ignored. Even before people lost their minds, outrage was being expressed. And I, at least, would have zero problem supporting reasonable protest. I want to believe most people would support reasonable protest. But attacking and destroying and stealing from people who have nothing to do with what you are outraged about is not protesting. That's criminal activity. Being mad at the police does not mean you get to break the law. You protest the police. You demand change. You find effective ways to make change. You don't ruin or take the lives of others and think it justified. And the truth is, most of the rioters and looters will forget all about actually trying to change things once order is restored. They'll sit back, bitch about how unfair life is, and wait for the next event that allows them to run amok. Change will not come that way. If you truly want change, you have to work for it. You can't just sit on your ass waiting on something to be outraged about.
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Those taking part in a lot of the violence and looting are protest opportunist that wait for an idea and people to hide behind. They just need a reason and a place. The murder of a man that should have never happened is not of their concern outside providing a reason. And no, the change that MLK spoke of decades ago will not come from that. White or black. He was right then and still right years later. What progress he made didn't start with the governments. It started with individual people.

Racism is in people. Black and white. Its not given to you or taken away by laws or the government. If it changes it changes within people.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
So we have to pay attention and support any nutjob and his political views? I guess the Unabomber and Columbine shooters were right to express their “not being heard” too?
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Racist ricky, I doubt anyone cares that much about what you pay attention to.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Nobody else watched the bottom video? Why were those Leo's instead of EMTs that picked him up from the scene with a stretcher? Anybody offer insight here? They said he was pronounced dead at the hospital...so it shouldnt be the coroner's picking him up, or deputies...

What happened right there? Anybody know or care? That has my Scooby senses twitching
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It doesn’t make any sense to me....none of it! First off, just the fact that a police officer is kneeling on a guy’s neck after both, he knows the guy is complaining/suffering and he’s being recorded...and his response is just twilight zone nothing!?!

Secondly, why are armed policemen getting out of the ambulance? No equipment...no resuscitation effort...no checking for a pulse. Just tossing a guy on a gurney and get some gone. Wtf? We are supposed to believe this is real life?
 
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Septic said:
Racist ricky, I doubt anyone cares that much about what you pay attention to.
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Lol well you don’t have to pay attention. Which is the point. You act like we have to care about these criminals and what they want. They want to be able to commit crimes without being arrested. This is why normal Americans ridicule and ignore the far left, they are always on the wrong side of everything because they act like emotional children throwing tantrums
 
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Weezer said:
I didn't suggest doing nothing. I said reasonably protest. Personally, I believe you win more hearts if you peacefully protest. But if you feel the need to act out, then at least direct it at those you are protesting, the police. You don't win hearts and minds attacking people who play no part in what you're protesting. Burning down businesses that serve the community, and killing innocent people does nothing to help the cause.
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I don't disagree, I also believe that they're past trying to win hearts and minds.
 
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Septic said:
I don't really gaf about CK. I simply used him as an example of convenience of peaceful protest where he was mocked and ridiculed. He used the platform he had as do many celebrities since no one cares if Willis kneels in government defiance in the back of his used tire shop in Anniston Alabama. Dance with who brung ya.
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Like Hog said, MLK went through much worse and never gave up. As for CK and other celebrities, they walk a much easier road than most. It's easy to sit back and speak out when it's the vogue thing to do, and little to no consequences to face. Even now, CK is collecting Nike money. He's not struggling. Real agents of change are willing to suffer whatever it takes to make a difference.
 
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NEOCON said:
No they don't.

Hence the divide.

To them this was just as bad as burning down a city.

Its both scary and sad.
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No. Your manner of thinking is the reason for the divide. You truly believe that all those who don't agree with you think the exact same way on the extreme opposite of the the spectrum. There are only two choices in your brain....it's not an either/or world.
 
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Septic said:
Did they? I mean, if you say so, though Arbery and Floyd may beg to differ.

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You act is if these are every day events. In MLK's time, they were. Black people disappeared, never to be heard from again, and no voices were raised. It was like they didn't exist. So to use these instances as if nothing has changed borders on ignorant. Voices have been raised. Outrage has been expressed. And people are actually facing charges. That was unlikely to happen in the world MLK was raised in.
 
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hog88 said:
MLK was ignored, mocked, arrested and beaten. He didn't quit or stoop to the same level of his detractors.

Change takes time, or revolution.
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Even revolution will not stop racism or events such as happened.
 
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Septic said:
I don't disagree, I also believe that they're past trying to win hearts and minds.
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You have to win support to make change. You have to wake people up and make them care. That's what made MLK successful. He reached people and showed them there was reason to care and that change was possible.
 
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Septic said:
Again, I'm sure that Arbery and Floyd would be super happy to have that brought to their attention.
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I mean, are you seriously arguing that the change you want are no tragedies moving forward? Demetrius Townsel Jr, Dexter Rantz, George Floyd, etc in your eyes the only change that will work will be where noone murders anyone else and anything short of that will be protesting and riots?
 
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Weezer said:
You act is if these are every day events. In MLK's time, they were. Black people disappeared, never to be heard from again, and no voices were raised. It was like they didn't exist. So to use these instances as if nothing has changed borders on ignorant. Voices have been raised. Outrage has been expressed. And people are actually facing charges. That was unlikely to happen in the world MLK was raised in.
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I'm just using the two events from the latest headlines on racial issues, if that's inconvenient - sorry.
 
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Here is what the riots are really about. A distraction to the treacherous acts by the Obama Administration. Antifa is just following orders and are the useful idiots to the traitors to America.
 
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