To Protect and to Serve II

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Do better.
The police is the last line between society and the thugs. We need to take every step possible to make sure the police are not the thugs.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I literally told you already.
It was beyond obvious the kid was testing/auditing the Leo’s. His reasoning was to draw attention to potential police overreaction and/or proper enforcement. He actually did both with his video. The senior officer in the video recognized it. You on the other hand have called him a several names over multiple posts. None of which are close to accurate. I can come up with several reasons he’d be filming right where he was that doesn’t lead to the assumption that he’s a child molester.
Heck you even watched the video where it’s explained that he has a audit channel. And you still felt like he’s a danger to society.
the only people he’s a danger to is bad police work. You know.....those who operate on faulty assumptions
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I don’t care if he “audits” or not, he can waste his life doing any silly thing. But filming elderly people dressing and undressing in their rooms is wrong no matter his purpose. Are you ok with someone filming your wife or kids in their rooms? The facility has every right to ban him and seek legal recourse to protect their residents. He can be right technically on the law about the sidewalks and they can protect their people from this moron
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I literally told you already.
It was beyond obvious the kid was testing/auditing the Leo’s. His reasoning was to draw attention to potential police overreaction and/or proper enforcement. He actually did both with his video. The senior officer in the video recognized it. You on the other hand have called him a several names over multiple posts. None of which are close to accurate. I can come up with several reasons he’d be filming right where he was that doesn’t lead to the assumption that he’s a child molester.
Heck you even watched the video where it’s explained that he has a audit channel. And you still felt like he’s a danger to society.
the only people he’s a danger to is bad police work. You know.....those who operate on faulty assumptions
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I have to say that if my mother was living there and some kid was filming in her window I’d have called the cops. I’d also have expected them to find out what he was up to. Now if I’m the cop that shows up and then have to deal with a kid just looking to be a pain in the ass..... I don’t know that I’d have much patience dealing with him. My guess is I’d have made him move along without putting much effort in discussing the law....
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I have to say that if my mother was living there and some kid was filming in her window I’d have called the cops. I’d also have expected them to find out what he was up to. Now if I’m the cop that shows up and then have to deal with a kid just looking to be a pain in the ass..... I don’t know that I’d have much patience dealing with him. My guess is I’d have made him move along without putting much effort in discussing the law....
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There’s right and wrong....then there’s the law.
Your assumption that he’s filming in the windows and internet behind it requires assumption. Unfortunately filming through windows is legal. However as the kid pointed out the blinds were all shut so he wasn’t filming through windows.
And you like the senior officer would have handled things properly.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I don’t care if he “audits” or not, he can waste his life doing any silly thing. But filming elderly people dressing and undressing in their rooms is wrong no matter his purpose. Are you ok with someone filming your wife or kids in their rooms? The facility has every right to ban him and seek legal recourse to protect their residents. He can be right technically on the law about the sidewalks and they can protect their people from this moron
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Again. assumptions by you on things that didn’t happen.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Again. assumptions by you on things that didn’t happen.
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So he didn’t film inside elderly people’s bedrooms? Did the facility say it was ok for him to do so? You think that kind of perverse behavior is acceptable and it’s not. And the facility has every right to try to protect their residents
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
So he didn’t film inside elderly people’s bedrooms? Did the facility say it was ok for him to do so? You think that kind of perverse behavior is acceptable and it’s not. And the facility has every right to try to protect their residents
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1- blinds were shut
2- filming through windows from a public space is legal
3- weather or not he was filming through windows is undetermined. And irrelevant as it would be legal behavior. Had he gone up too the windows and tried to film around the blinds that would be completely different in the eyes of the law.

But once again there are many legal reasons he could have been filming that have nothing to do with the speculation of the people who called the police.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
1- blinds were shut
2- filming through windows from a public space is legal
3- weather or not he was filming through windows is undetermined. And irrelevant as it would be legal behavior. Had he gone up too the windows and tried to film around the blinds that would be completely different in the eyes of the law.

But once again there are many legal reasons he could have been filming that have nothing to do with the speculation of the people who called the police.
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Ok and the facility is within every right to ban him from their property and get a court order to stop his harassment. Do you not agree that is their right?
 
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#9,585
True story
I was in a car with a friend who stopped in front of a grocery store in the fire lane. He took the keys and went inside the store. I was learning on the hood of the car waiting. A police officer came up and told me to move the car. I told him it wasn’t my car, that I didn’t have the keys and wouldn’t blame him if he wrote my buddy a ticket. This officer took that as a challenge and got 2 inches from my chest and asked “you want to say some smart **** to me again big man” I stuck my hands in my pockets shifted backwards about 3 inches stared him in his eyes and said nothing. He kept saying a bunch of **** designed to make me angry or give him a reason to beat/arrest me. I of course said absolutely nothing. After a few minutes my buddy came out and got in the car. I slowly turned and opened the door. The cop said “I didn’t say you could leave “ I continued to ignore him like he didn’t exist and got in the car.

A lot of you Leo’s need to do better.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Ok and the facility is within every right to ban him from their property and get a court order to stop his harassment. Do you not agree that is their right?
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As he never went on their property and isn’t likely to go on their property it’s irrelevant. They can ban anyone they like. It’s their property. They would be within their legal rights to attempt to get a restraining order if they like and he’d be within his rights to contest it if he wanted too. Harassment of the facility hasn’t been established, there’s only an accusation that may or may not be true. None of that is relevant to the assumptions of people like you being a major part of the problem.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
True story
I was in a car with a friend who stopped in front of a grocery store in the fire lane. He took the keys and went inside the store. I was learning on the hood of the car waiting. A police officer came up and told me to move the car. I told him it wasn’t my car, that I didn’t have the keys and wouldn’t blame him if he wrote my buddy a ticket. This officer took that as a challenge and got 2 inches from my chest and asked “you want to say some smart **** to me again big man” I stuck my hands in my pockets shifted backwards about 3 inches stared him in his eyes and said nothing. He kept saying a bunch of **** designed to make me angry or give him a reason to beat/arrest me. I of course said absolutely nothing. After a few minutes my buddy came out and got in the car. I slowly turned and opened the door. The cop said “I didn’t say you could leave “ I continued to ignore him like he didn’t exist and got in the car.

A lot of you Leo’s need to do better.
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Ok sorry you met a bad officer one time but that doesn’t change what I said. The “auditor/sovereign citizen” types always have some kind of mental illness or criminal background. This kid may have had the “legal” ability to film inside those people’s bedrooms but it’s still wrong and the facility has legal rights too and can keep him from doing so
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
As he never went on their property and isn’t likely to go on their property it’s irrelevant. They can ban anyone they like. It’s their property. They would be within their legal rights to attempt to get a restraining order if they like and he’d be within his rights to contest it if he wanted too. None of that is relevant to the assumptions of people like you being a major part of the problem.
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I’m not part of the problem. I can recognize people’s rights while also working within the law to prevent people from harassing others
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Ok sorry you met a bad officer one time but that doesn’t change what I said. The “auditor/sovereign citizen” types always have some kind of mental illness or criminal background. This kid may have had the “legal” ability to film inside those people’s bedrooms but it’s still wrong and the facility has legal rights too and can keep him from doing so
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I’m talking to one now.
People who what you the hell out of their business are not “always “ mentally ill.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I’m not part of the problem. I can recognize people’s rights while also working within the law to prevent people from harassing others
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Right now you’re operating on flawed assumption.
That makes you the harasser of a citizen who is not breaking any laws.
Fortunately the senior officer was there instead of you
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Right now you’re operating on flawed assumption.
That makes you the harasser of a citizen who is not breaking any laws.
Fortunately the senior officer was there instead of you
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I told you that I wouldn’t have arrested him for DOC so why are you upset with me exactly?
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I told you that I wouldn’t have arrested him for DOC so why are you upset with me exactly?
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not upset at all with you.
I don’t know you.
I’m pointing out your inability to diagnose a situation. A problem that exists with too many police officers.
Do better.

You can have the last word. I’m out
 
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I'll add my sad sack story to the abuse of power narrative. Once upon a time when I was young and dumb I went to a titty bar with a couple of buddies. One of my buds got thrown out for grabbing ass and I decided it was time to leave. In the parking lot was a cop and my bud sitting on my car. Jerry jerkwad cop was in the parking lot as a paid for POS and explained to me that either I could move my car and go to jail for DUI or he was going to impound it. I should have ran so he could have shot me in the back.
 
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VolStrom said:
I'll add my sad sack story to the abuse of power narrative. Once upon a time when I was young and dumb I went to a titty bar with a couple of buddies. One of my buds got thrown out for grabbing ass and I decided it was time to leave. In the parking lot was a cop and my bud sitting on my car. Jerry jerkwad cop was in the parking lot as a paid for POS and explained to me that either I could move my car and go to jail for DUI or he was going to impound it. I should have ran so he could have shot me in the back.
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So you and your buddy got drunk and kicked out of a bar for assaulting a girl and then was going to drive drunk and you’re upset because the officer working a side job smarted off to you but didn’t arrest you? Your definition of abuse of power is strange
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
not upset at all with you.
I don’t know you.
I’m pointing out your inability to diagnose a situation. A problem that exists with too many police officers.
Do better.

You can have the last word. I’m out
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I diagnosed it. And came up with a legal solution for the issue. Even the Audit the Audit guys said he was an idiot for doing it
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
There’s right and wrong....then there’s the law.
Your assumption that he’s filming in the windows and internet behind it requires assumption. Unfortunately filming through windows is legal. However as the kid pointed out the blinds were all shut so he wasn’t filming through windows.
And you like the senior officer would have handled things properly.
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I didn’t watch the whole video. Was the kid doing an experiment to see how the police would respond?
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
True story
I was in a car with a friend who stopped in front of a grocery store in the fire lane. He took the keys and went inside the store. I was learning on the hood of the car waiting. A police officer came up and told me to move the car. I told him it wasn’t my car, that I didn’t have the keys and wouldn’t blame him if he wrote my buddy a ticket. This officer took that as a challenge and got 2 inches from my chest and asked “you want to say some smart **** to me again big man” I stuck my hands in my pockets shifted backwards about 3 inches stared him in his eyes and said nothing. He kept saying a bunch of **** designed to make me angry or give him a reason to beat/arrest me. I of course said absolutely nothing. After a few minutes my buddy came out and got in the car. I slowly turned and opened the door. The cop said “I didn’t say you could leave “ I continued to ignore him like he didn’t exist and got in the car.

A lot of you Leo’s need to do better.
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I think a lot of us have similar experiences, but I try to separate those from other more courteous ones. Sometimes it’s hard though. I was at one of my daughter’s soccer games a few years back. Big rivalry game... kids were getting excited in front of the stands jumping up and down and yelling. A young militant looking cop told them to get back away from the field .... well.. a few minutes later a kid jumped up cheering and hit close to the sidelines.... nothing sinister at all. The cop chose to make a scene by yelling at the kid.... then belittled him in front of everyone ... it was so bad that I was compelled to intervene. I told him that’s enough, he’s just a kid and that I saw what he did.... he started to come at me and then several other parents spoke up and diffused it. It was nothing more than the cop wanting to intimidate the kid.... it was disgusting. I knew the kid and he’s not a troublemaker at all
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Ok sorry you met a bad officer one time but that doesn’t change what I said. The “auditor/sovereign citizen” types always have some kind of mental illness or criminal background. This kid may have had the “legal” ability to film inside those people’s bedrooms but it’s still wrong and the facility has legal rights too and can keep him from doing so
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You have been trained well. Constitutionalists are now the enemies of the state.
 
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