To Protect and to Serve II

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Orangeslice13 said:
Right now you’re operating on flawed assumption.
That makes you the harasser of a citizen who is not breaking any laws.
Fortunately the senior officer was there instead of you
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I told you that I wouldn’t have arrested him for DOC so why are you upset with me exactly?
 
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#9,603
Rickyvol77 said:
I told you that I wouldn’t have arrested him for DOC so why are you upset with me exactly?
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not upset at all with you.
I don’t know you.
I’m pointing out your inability to diagnose a situation. A problem that exists with too many police officers.
Do better.

You can have the last word. I’m out
 
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I'll add my sad sack story to the abuse of power narrative. Once upon a time when I was young and dumb I went to a titty bar with a couple of buddies. One of my buds got thrown out for grabbing ass and I decided it was time to leave. In the parking lot was a cop and my bud sitting on my car. Jerry jerkwad cop was in the parking lot as a paid for POS and explained to me that either I could move my car and go to jail for DUI or he was going to impound it. I should have ran so he could have shot me in the back.
 
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VolStrom said:
I'll add my sad sack story to the abuse of power narrative. Once upon a time when I was young and dumb I went to a titty bar with a couple of buddies. One of my buds got thrown out for grabbing ass and I decided it was time to leave. In the parking lot was a cop and my bud sitting on my car. Jerry jerkwad cop was in the parking lot as a paid for POS and explained to me that either I could move my car and go to jail for DUI or he was going to impound it. I should have ran so he could have shot me in the back.
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So you and your buddy got drunk and kicked out of a bar for assaulting a girl and then was going to drive drunk and you’re upset because the officer working a side job smarted off to you but didn’t arrest you? Your definition of abuse of power is strange
 
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#9,606
Orangeslice13 said:
not upset at all with you.
I don’t know you.
I’m pointing out your inability to diagnose a situation. A problem that exists with too many police officers.
Do better.

You can have the last word. I’m out
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I diagnosed it. And came up with a legal solution for the issue. Even the Audit the Audit guys said he was an idiot for doing it
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
There’s right and wrong....then there’s the law.
Your assumption that he’s filming in the windows and internet behind it requires assumption. Unfortunately filming through windows is legal. However as the kid pointed out the blinds were all shut so he wasn’t filming through windows.
And you like the senior officer would have handled things properly.
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I didn’t watch the whole video. Was the kid doing an experiment to see how the police would respond?
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
True story
I was in a car with a friend who stopped in front of a grocery store in the fire lane. He took the keys and went inside the store. I was learning on the hood of the car waiting. A police officer came up and told me to move the car. I told him it wasn’t my car, that I didn’t have the keys and wouldn’t blame him if he wrote my buddy a ticket. This officer took that as a challenge and got 2 inches from my chest and asked “you want to say some smart **** to me again big man” I stuck my hands in my pockets shifted backwards about 3 inches stared him in his eyes and said nothing. He kept saying a bunch of **** designed to make me angry or give him a reason to beat/arrest me. I of course said absolutely nothing. After a few minutes my buddy came out and got in the car. I slowly turned and opened the door. The cop said “I didn’t say you could leave “ I continued to ignore him like he didn’t exist and got in the car.

A lot of you Leo’s need to do better.
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I think a lot of us have similar experiences, but I try to separate those from other more courteous ones. Sometimes it’s hard though. I was at one of my daughter’s soccer games a few years back. Big rivalry game... kids were getting excited in front of the stands jumping up and down and yelling. A young militant looking cop told them to get back away from the field .... well.. a few minutes later a kid jumped up cheering and hit close to the sidelines.... nothing sinister at all. The cop chose to make a scene by yelling at the kid.... then belittled him in front of everyone ... it was so bad that I was compelled to intervene. I told him that’s enough, he’s just a kid and that I saw what he did.... he started to come at me and then several other parents spoke up and diffused it. It was nothing more than the cop wanting to intimidate the kid.... it was disgusting. I knew the kid and he’s not a troublemaker at all
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Ok sorry you met a bad officer one time but that doesn’t change what I said. The “auditor/sovereign citizen” types always have some kind of mental illness or criminal background. This kid may have had the “legal” ability to film inside those people’s bedrooms but it’s still wrong and the facility has legal rights too and can keep him from doing so
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You have been trained well. Constitutionalists are now the enemies of the state.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I think a lot of us have similar experiences, but I try to separate those from other more courteous ones. Sometimes it’s hard though. I was at one of my daughter’s soccer games a few years back. Big rivalry game... kids were getting excited in front of the stands jumping up and down and yelling. A young militant looking cop told them to get back away from the field .... well.. a few minutes later a kid jumped up cheering and hit close to the sidelines.... nothing sinister at all. The cop chose to make a scene by yelling at the kid.... then belittled him in front of everyone ... it was so bad that I was compelled to intervene. I told him that’s enough, he’s just a kid and that I saw what he did.... he started to come at me and then several other parents spoke up and diffused it. It was nothing more than the cop wanting to intimidate the kid.... it was disgusting. I knew the kid and he’s not a troublemaker at all
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It is little things like that, especially at a time like this, that can tip a country over to tyranny.
If the cops feel that they are able to do whatever the hell they want to do just for the sake of enforcing some simple azz law, all of us are in trouble.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It is little things like that, especially at a time like this, that can tip a country over to tyranny.
If the cops feel that they are able to do whatever the hell they want to do just for the sake of enforcing some simple azz law, all of us are in trouble.
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The guy was such an a-hole. When the other parents started giving him the business after I did he knew he’d shown his rear.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
So to follow up with this, you support the sovereign citizen beliefs?
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Well lets back up, because it is obvious that your definition of sovereign citizen is broad and my definition is more narrow.

My issue with you was automatically/kneejerk calling someone a sovereign citizen just based on them video taping and auditing the police.

In your mind, anyone spouting off about their Constitutional rights is a sovereign citizen. My definition would simply be a person that does not feel they should have to follow the laws of any jurisdiction... in other words, they are "sovereign".

Those are two totally different things.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Well lets back up, because it is obvious that your definition of sovereign citizen is broad and my definition is more narrow.

My issue with you was automatically/kneejerk calling someone a sovereign citizen just based on them video taping and auditing the police.

In your mind, anyone spouting off about their Constitutional rights is a sovereign citizen. My definition would simply be a person that does not feel they should have to follow the laws of any jurisdiction... in other words, they are "sovereign".

Those are two totally different things.
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What’s your definition of a sovereign citizen
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
What’s your definition of a sovereign citizen
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Damn, did you read what you quoted? I said it right there.


Rasputin_Vol said:
Well lets back up, because it is obvious that your definition of sovereign citizen is broad and my definition is more narrow.

My issue with you was automatically/kneejerk calling someone a sovereign citizen just based on them video taping and auditing the police.

In your mind, anyone spouting off about their Constitutional rights is a sovereign citizen. My definition would simply be a person that does not feel they should have to follow the laws of any jurisdiction... in other words, they are "sovereign".

Those are two totally different things.
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