Mike Leach (Texas Tech)

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#903
spudvol said:
No, you're right, we should snatch up Butch Davis before someone realizes it isn't the 1990's.
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Yeah, because UNC isn't in position to win the ACC or anything. He's been there two years. Leach has been at Texas Tech for eight full seasons and has won fewer conference titles in Lubbock than Spike Dykes did.
 
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#905
spudvol said:
Davis left Miami in 2000, Miami won a title in 2001.
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He won his conference, played in a BCS bowl, destroyed a Steve Spurrier coached team in the Sugar Bowl, and finished #2 in the nation in 2000. Each of those accomplishments being infinitely bigger than anything Bluebeard has done in Lubbock since 2000.
 
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#906
tvolsfan said:
Ask Mike Shula how good he thinks TT's offense is.
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So your point would be Leach is a bad coach because he didn't go undeafeted every season? Leach took a perennial Big12 cellar dweller and made a good team out of it. Bad coaches don't do that.
 
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#908
hatvol96 said:
He won his conference, played in a BCS bowl, destroyed a Steve Spurrier coached team in the Sugar Bowl, and finished #2 in the nation in 2000. Each of those accomplishments being infinitely bigger than anything Bluebeard has done in Lubbock since 2000.
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He took over a traditional powerhouse and won with it. Leach took over a traditional loser and won with it.
 
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#910
rockytophigh said:
Until you start supporting another fellow Mike for UT's head coaching position if Davis & Gruden say no.
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lol

I like Gruden, Davis, Kiffin, Muschamp....after that they are all about the same imo. Leach, Graham, Patterson and Kelly....But, if I had to pick one of those four it would be Kelly
 
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#911
Miami's record five years before Davis took over 52-8.

Miami's record in Davis' first five years 40-19.
 
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#913
spudvol said:
So your point would be Leach is a bad coach because he didn't go undeafeted every season? Leach took a perennial Big12 cellar dweller and made a good team out of it. Bad coaches don't do that.
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Texas Tech had exactly 0 losing season in the four years of Big 12 competition before Leach took over in Lubbock. I guess we should hire Spike Dykes.
 
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#915
spudvol said:
He took over a traditional powerhouse and won with it. Leach took over a traditional loser and won with it.
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Actually, if you look at the records of Texas Tech the eight seasons before Leach took over and the eight seasons under Leach (before this year) they look pretty similar, especially the conf. records. So I wouldn't go as far to call them a traditional loser.
 
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spudvol said:
He took over a traditional powerhouse and won with it. Leach took over a traditional loser and won with it.
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Please recite the years in which Spike Dykes finished with a losing record after the Red Raiders joined the Big 12. Oh, they don't exist. That's right, with the exception of this season, Leach has pretty much done nothing out of the ordinary in Lubbock.
 
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#917
spudvol said:
Miami's record five years before Davis took over 52-8.

Miami's record in Davis' first five years 40-19.
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That's a completely bogus comparison since Davis took over a program in disarray and faced some heavy scholarship losses due to Dennis Erickson's violations.
 
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Mullet Vol said:
Actually, if you look at the records of Texas Tech the eight seasons before Leach took over and the eight seasons under Leach (before this year) they look pretty similar, especially the conf. records. So I wouldn't go as far to call them a traditional loser.
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How dare you interject facts in an attempt to discredit Long John Silver?
 
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#920
GAVol said:
That's a completely bogus comparison since Davis took over a program in disarray and faced some heavy scholarship losses due to Dennis Erickson's violations.
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Facts are irrelevant. Bow to the power of Captain Queeg.
 
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#921
GAVol said:
That's a completely bogus comparison since Davis took over a program in disarray and faced some heavy scholarship losses due to Dennis Erickson's violations.
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LOL, if Davis can't coach a team in disarray what makes you think he is ready for Tenn in it's current state.
 
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#922
GAVol said:
That's a completely bogus comparison since Davis took over a program in disarray and faced some heavy scholarship losses due to Dennis Erickson's violations.
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To be fair Hat did say what is wrong with using "facts" and said that there is evidently no need to add context so Judges say this gets a pass.

Continue
 
#924
#924
VolfanMike said:
lol

I like Gruden, Davis, Kiffin, Muschamp....after that they are all about the same imo. Leach, Graham, Patterson and Kelly....But, if I had to pick one of those four it would be Kelly
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I'd love Gruden but I just don't see it. Davis will bring the players with him & have the longest possible stretch of time to put a team together...& I think he would.

Kiffin & Muschamp are along the same lines of Leach to me. We've got a defense. We need OFFENSE my man....Leach brings a crapload of history of getting average players to set NCAA records....Kiffin brings a nice offensive resume to the table as well. Muschamp is one I'm not sure about but he does have a SEC background. I'm just not so sure how important that is these days.

So do me a favor Mike.....if Gruden & Davis say no & it's down to Kiffin or Leach....get out your patch & your pirate flag
 
#925
#925
spudvol said:
LOL, if Davis can't coach a team in disarray what makes you think he is ready for Tenn in it's current state.
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We're a walk in the park compared to the trainwreck that was Miami in the mid 90s.
 
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