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Stew Cook said:
If he doesn't have it now, he may have it then, or vice versa. Seems sort of crazy waiting that long for a test result that may wind up being useless.
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I agree and by then, assuming he has it, anyone he exposed to it will likely show symptoms. That time frame to get results is pretty ridiculous and it’s not clear if it takes that long to test or it’s due to the backlog of tests already performed.
 
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37L1 said:
Can't deny that. I just feel for New York. Such a great cosmopolitan town now being changed because of this virus. It's easier to "socially distance" one self elsewhere, but New York isn't built that way.

It's sad, man.
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I live north of the city, but in an area with commuter train and Amtrak service. Have watched the number of positive cases in our county go up from under 50 to nearly 500in a week. There are some pretty rural areas in this county, and even those towns are seeing cases. I have definitely changed my opinion as this has gotten closer. I really believe the US is behind the curve in preventing its spread, and I think that’s why we’re seeing such a change in demeanor at the press conference today.
 
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dillyo51 said:
H1N1 says hello.
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Per AP News:

The CDC's flu surveillance network actually sounded the alarm (on H1N1, initially called 'the swine flu'), spotting two children in California who were the first diagnosed cases of the new flu strain. About two weeks later, the U.S. declared a public health emergency and CDC began releasing anti-flu drugs from the national stockpile to help hospitals get ready. Whereas Trump declared a state of emergency seven weeks after the first case of COVID-19 was announced. Testing wasn't the primary concern during the H1N1 outbreak. The huge challenge was finding a vaccine. H1N1 popped up in April of 2009, which was just 3 months into Barack Obama's presidency and he was still better prepared to handle it than Trump has handled COVID-19. Obama never downplayed or minimized the threat to the American public as Trump has done.

So yes... I guess H1N1 does say "hello"... but whatever criticism you were intending to imply, is most likely just an easily debunked Trump talking point.
 
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Weezer said:
Interesting. Instead of agreeing that declining numbers in NY is a good thing, you attack Trump. It's almost like you don't want the numbers going down.
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It is interesting and very indicative of what is most important to him, that Donald Trump thought discussing the Neilsen ratings during Sunday's press conference (and at some considerable length) was necessary and of an urgent importance to the nation. Or was it just important to him?
 
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volbeast33 said:
There is nobody to vote for that is any different
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There are and there would be better options if people stopped voting for bad candidates. If Republican voters refused to support bad politicians, the RNC would be forced to change up. We're just 8 years removed from the Tea Party and an R senate and POTUS just passed a $2T bailout. This happened because they'll get your vote no matter what.

If you didn't vote in primaries for Rand Paul, then you can't claim the excuse that there aren't other options.
 
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newyorkvol said:
I live north of the city, but in an area with commuter train and Amtrak service. Have watched the number of positive cases in our county go up from under 50 to nearly 500in a week. There are some pretty rural areas in this county, and even those towns are seeing cases. I have definitely changed my opinion as this has gotten closer. I really believe the US is behind the curve in preventing its spread, and I think that’s why we’re seeing such a change in demeanor at the press conference today.
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Not sure I can even phrase my point or question how I want to here.

I have wondered will we see this thing spread right to left across the map, meaning we will lag behind NY as NY lagged behind Italy. And LA will lag behind Knoxville, again moving across the map. But that isn't right. It got to the major cities I would assume close to simultaneously, NYC, LA, Seattle, Chicago, Atlanta, Miami, etc. I assume? Then will filter out in a radii from there. Until the circles overlap. So there wont be some huge lag from the time you see NY peak versus a Knoxville peak. Am I wrong or right?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Per AP News:

The CDC's flu surveillance network actually sounded the alarm (on H1N1, initially called 'the swine flu'), spotting two children in California who were the first diagnosed cases of the new flu strain. About two weeks later, the U.S. declared a public health emergency and CDC began releasing anti-flu drugs from the national stockpile to help hospitals get ready. Whereas Trump declared a state of emergency seven weeks after the first case of COVID-19 was announced. Testing wasn't the primary concern during the H1N1 outbreak. The huge challenge was finding a vaccine. H1N1 popped up in April of 2009, which was just 3 months into Barack Obama's presidency and he was still better prepared to handle it than Trump has handled COVID-19. Obama never downplayed or minimized the threat to the American public as Trump has done.

So yes... I guess H1N1 does say "hello"... but whatever criticism you were intending to imply, is most likely just an easily debunked Trump talking point.
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Can you post the link for this? Sounds like a "fact check" more than an AP story (news story). I can't find it.
 
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newyorkvol said:
I live north of the city, but in an area with commuter train and Amtrak service. Have watched the number of positive cases in our county go up from under 50 to nearly 500in a week. There are some pretty rural areas in this county, and even those towns are seeing cases. I have definitely changed my opinion as this has gotten closer. I really believe the US is behind the curve in preventing its spread, and I think that’s why we’re seeing such a change in demeanor at the press conference today.
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If you got people transiting everyday into and out of the City, it's going to come back with them. I don't think we've gotten to the point where we would be able to adjust to the idea of quarantining a major US city, particularly New York, to prevent the spread. We all saw the reaction when that idea was "floated". So we will maintain "social distancing" "stay at home whenever possible" and try to "slow the spread." It's still coming, we all know it.

I watched part of Gov. Andrew Cuomo's presser today. I'm no fan of his brother, Chris, but I was not cheering the news that he tested positive. I thought Gov. Cuomo, while using his brother's story, was quite effective with driving home how serious this disease was, how our carelessness and "good intentions" could prove fatal to our loved ones and how we need to be disciplined in our approach to this situation.

If you missed it, it is worthwhile to watch it. He drives an important point home that everyone should be able to comprehend.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It is interesting and very indicative of what is most important to him, that Donald Trump thought discussing the Neilsen ratings during Sunday's press conference (and at some considerable length) was necessary and of an urgent importance to the nation. Or was it just important to him?
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I asked twice last night (at least); I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't see.

Do you think talking about Nielsen ratings is worse/same/not as bad as Pelosi claiming on TV and at press conference that Trump's decisions have killed people?
 
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37L1 said:
If you got people transiting everyday into and out of the City, it's going to come back with them. I don't think we've gotten to the point where we would be able to adjust to the idea of quarantining a major US city, particularly New York, to prevent the spread. We all saw the reaction when that idea was "floated". So we will maintain "social distancing" "stay at home whenever possible" and try to "slow the spread." It's still coming, we all know it.

I watched part of Gov. Andrew Cuomo's presser today. I'm no fan of his brother, Chris, but I was not cheering the news that he tested positive. I thought Gov. Cuomo, while using his brother's story, was quite effective with driving home how serious this disease was, how our carelessness and "good intentions" could prove fatal to our loved ones and how we need to be disciplined in our approach to this situation.

If you missed it, it is worthwhile to watch it. He drives an important point home that everyone should be able to comprehend.
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And THIS ^^^ is what it looks like when a conservative comments on the actions of a liberal, without regard to political loyalties or any other agenda. Just the words of one American who shares the concerns of another.

Lesson in those words for all of us.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
And THIS ^^^ is what it looks like when a conservative comments on the actions of a liberal, without regard to political loyalties or any other agenda. Just the words of one American who shares the concerns of another.

Lesson in those words for all of us.
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It's like a troll riding a unicorn. Good post though.
 
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volinbham said:
Can you post the link for this? Sounds like a "fact check" more than an AP story (news story). I can't find it.
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It is an AP FACT CHECK, which is available on 'apnews.com'. That is why I said "Per AP News". Just Google: "AP FACT CHECK: Trump misrepresents Obama's actions on H1N1 by Lauran Neergaard and Calvin Woodward on March 13, 2020"
 
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allvol123 said:
Not sure I can even phrase my point or question how I want to here.

I have wondered will we see this thing spread right to left across the map, meaning we will lag behind NY as NY lagged behind Italy. And LA will lag behind Knoxville, again moving across the map. But that isn't right. It got to the major cities I would assume close to simultaneously, NYC, LA, Seattle, Chicago, Atlanta, Miami, etc. I assume? Then will filter out in a radii from there. Until the circles overlap. So there wont be some huge lag from the time you see NY peak versus a Knoxville peak. Am I wrong or right?
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We saw our increase about 10days after NYC went haywire. I think NYC is probably ahead of the curve because of the amount of international travel, but then that doesn’t explain places like Los Angeles or San Fran not exploding either. But Newsom was a little more aggressive even than Cuomo was. Population density will obviously have an effect, but again, we’re such a mobile society that there’s always that one connection. Hopefully the further away from the big NOrtheast population enters you are, the less
Likely it’ll affect you.
 
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n_huffhines said:
There are and there would be better options if people stopped voting for bad candidates. If Republican voters refused to support bad politicians, the RNC would be forced to change up. We're just 8 years removed from the Tea Party and an R senate and POTUS just passed a $2T bailout. This happened because they'll get your vote no matter what.

If you didn't vote in primaries for Rand Paul, then you can't claim the excuse that there aren't other options.
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If Rand Paul had been there..... he would have voted for the stimulus plan just like the rest..... Paul talks a good game but nothing at all would have changed.
 
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37L1 said:
If you got people transiting everyday into and out of the City, it's going to come back with them. I don't think we've gotten to the point where we would be able to adjust to the idea of quarantining a major US city, particularly New York, to prevent the spread. We all saw the reaction when that idea was "floated". So we will maintain "social distancing" "stay at home whenever possible" and try to "slow the spread." It's still coming, we all know it.

I watched part of Gov. Andrew Cuomo's presser today. I'm no fan of his brother, Chris, but I was not cheering the news that he tested positive. I thought Gov. Cuomo, while using his brother's story, was quite effective with driving home how serious this disease was, how our carelessness and "good intentions" could prove fatal to our loved ones and how we need to be disciplined in our approach to this situation.

If you missed it, it is worthwhile to watch it. He drives an important point home that everyone should be able to comprehend.
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I posted a quote by Cuomo earlier when he said the virus is more aggressive than what was originally thought and that it was underestimated.
 
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