BeecherVol
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You guys are the ones bringing up car crashes 20 times a day as though no statistics on it are available and we should be no more worried about this pandemic than we are about car crashes. Car crashes have never brought down our health care system, but the CDC is already advising doctors that they might have to use makeshift PPE like handkerchiefs because we are running out of masks. C'mon, man!
Then I post some statistics about your argument over a 70 year period and you argue that I'm cherry picking and that it is a bad analogy? My whole point is that it is an idiotic comparison! This is the horse you are beating.
Car crashes and coronavirus are only related in cases where, like what is happening in Italy right now, a crash crash patient who otherwise could be saved shows up at a hospital overwhelmed with corona patients and then can't get the help they need and dies. That death doesn't list under corona, but the patient would have been alive in a no corona health system.
Another reason this analogy is stupid is that we DO care about car crashes and the trauma they cause. The amount of scientist and engineering hours spent making cars safer is astronomical. We are at the beginning of this crisis and even the car manufacturers are starting to use their knowledge to help us out of this situation where we are so far behind the curve.
GM’s Mary Barra Offers To Build Ventilators For Coronavirus Patients At Idled Auto Plants
This is a time for all Americans to come together and do what we have done so many times in the past: rise to the occasion.
No, I'm at we shouldnt annihilate our society and way of life over a virus that will likely equal a months worth of heart disease deaths.
Few are panicking? You have no credibility at this point.
Oh you mean if they decided to control our country based on the the amount of production we’ve allowed them to have when making products we need ? Good , now would be the absolute best time for them to do that so we can get away from depending on them for the things we NEED not bobbles and trinkets we WANT . If the outcome of this virus doesn’t force us to become more self reliant on our own manufacturing processes and less dependent on China , it will be a huge mistake on our part as a country . If we are so afraid of offending a country by the words we say on the off chance they will cut off product we depend on .. who are the fools in this scenario?
I don't think people who are trying to keep the health care capacity from being overwhelmed are panicking. They are just doing the math, and coming to obvious conclusions.
We need 5 times more respirators than we currently have in New York State, for example. That is a challenge that must be met.
Your claim that we are going to "annihilate society" by trying to bend the transmission curve sounds a lot more like panic to me.
Expert??? Wow, no wonder there has been panic buying etc. If one actually reads the earlier post (the one about the Spanish Flu) in January, then compares Actual-real-no BS DEATHS in the US, they'll be able to draw their own conclusion. Sorry, but your "coming from the frontline BS" aint cuttin it. I know joe biden says Dems take "truth" over facts, but as joe would say, "Come on man"!
Get over yourself. There is no unity in this country. Hell, before 9/11, we were divided as ever, and we are even further divided now, thanks to Obama, the media, and their freedom-loathing followers.
Come together, for what? To get past something that has been blown enormously out of proportion, only to have greater division afterward? This is what many have asked for, so I suggest we give it to them.
I mean, we have idiots here claiming that referring to this pathogen as a Chinese virus, is racist. Those are people who deserve no help, no unity, and certainly no sympathy.
Flame away, all you virtuous bastions of brotherly love.
Was only responding to the notion that we'd be just dandy. For example, my new hobby of electronics repair: Components ranging from capacitors to integrated circuits are virtually nonexistent domestically. We'd be screwed. But hey we could go full steampunk, until we get our **** back together.
Again, not saying it's going to happen, only that our chest thumping is mostly hollow, as far as our independence goes.
Many of us think this is the first time Trump has shown any leadership, albeit reluctantly.I am becoming more and more disappointed with the President over this, he has let the left wing media drag him into acting like this is the end of the world. We need leadership right now and sadly we aren't getting it from anyone.