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DynaLo said:
There was no panic in her post and I’ll take that medical info coming from a frontline ICU nurse everyday and twice on Sunday over any crap you ever care to spout.
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Expert??? Wow, no wonder there has been panic buying etc. If one actually reads the earlier post (the one about the Spanish Flu) in January, then compares Actual-real-no BS DEATHS in the US, they'll be able to draw their own conclusion. Sorry, but your "coming from the frontline BS" aint cuttin it. I know joe biden says Dems take "truth" over facts, but as joe would say, "Come on man"!
 
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TheDeeble said:
Now that testing protocols have changed and testing is ramping up significantly I'd expect that 10% to drop.

We've been seeing a lot of the more severe cases as test results I think thus far. Now we should start getting the mild cases that weren't tested for previously. And that's still not including the people that are trying to treat it themselves with OTC meds and not going to the doctor.
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Agreed.

The number of cases are going to spike over the next several days. The death increase will be the number to watch during and after that time. Should have a much better idea of the long term forecast after the next 2-3 weeks.
 
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Smokey'sHandler said:
Just out of curiosity: What are your son and your wife doing to combat the issue? Did they have an online presence before this event? If so are they exploiting that more and if not are they going to create one?

I am not a small business owner but would love to be one one day and in this crisis have often thought about what the strategy would be in a time like this. I am guessing the strategy would be to purchase zero new inventory unless you are overloaded on orders for specific items. Attempt to move all of the inventory you have off the shelf and essentially shut the doors to decrease on your amount of variable expenses. Leaving your expense in only building expense, inventory tax expense (if there is such a thing) and additional taxes you have to pay. At that point you have to bank on whatever you have in your coffers/sales on existing inventory will carry you until you open back up and make a profit again which may be 3-4 months.
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They don't have much of an online presence which is biting them in the azz. My advice to him was to prepare to shut it down. Go to his landlord and see if they can work out an arraignment and if not, get his inventory out and layoff his staff. Take whatever hit comes but right now is not the time to try and float a small business with personal cash.
 
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utvolpj said:
Being offensive may be debatable but his purposeful usage is really not. Maybe you could debate the reasons behind it instead
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I know every time I hear someone say, German Measles, or Rocky Mountain Fever, or Spanish Flu, I'm offended-it is either racist, or culturally biased, or something that must be bad, real bad. All these types of terrible things must have their names changed, and quick. I'd start with the school books, burn those using this type of offensive language, and replace with something that does not, repeat, Does Not indicate the origin of anything bad, it may hurt feelings.....
 
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I40flyer said:
This January post (I'm glad it is still up) reflects the beginning of the panic prone fools.
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I was wrong about the %, thankfully. If you would like to discuss what my " panic prone fool " thinking was at the time, we can go into that. I haven't changed anything I've done since this came out.
 
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GAVol said:
The Chinese people aren’t the target either. It’s to slap the Chinese government’s hand and marginalize them worldwide.
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LouderVol said:
Sweet the Corona virus has been in the us for 68 years?

Seems like a fair comparison to make when you cut off the expoential growth part of car wrecks at their introduction. Instead you choose a point in time when exposure was already near max thirty years after introduction.
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You guys are the ones bringing up car crashes 20 times a day as though no statistics on it are available and we should be no more worried about this pandemic than we are about car crashes. Car crashes have never brought down our health care system, but the CDC is already advising doctors that they might have to use makeshift PPE like handkerchiefs because we are running out of masks. C'mon, man!

Then I post some statistics about your argument over a 70 year period and you argue that I'm cherry picking and that it is a bad analogy? My whole point is that it is an idiotic comparison! This is the horse you are beating.

Car crashes and coronavirus are only related in cases where, like what is happening in Italy right now, a crash crash patient who otherwise could be saved shows up at a hospital overwhelmed with corona patients and then can't get the help they need and dies. That death doesn't list under corona, but the patient would have been alive in a no corona health system.

Another reason this analogy is stupid is that we DO care about car crashes and the trauma they cause. The amount of scientist and engineering hours spent making cars safer is astronomical. We are at the beginning of this crisis and even the car manufacturers are starting to use their knowledge to help us out of this situation where we are so far behind the curve.

GM’s Mary Barra Offers To Build Ventilators For Coronavirus Patients At Idled Auto Plants

This is a time for all Americans to come together and do what we have done so many times in the past: rise to the occasion.
 
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lawgator1 said:
We are averaging about 37,000 automobile fatalities a year. I think CV will cause more than that in calendar 2020.

I would love to be completely wrong and would take absolute delight in being mocked about it.
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In the US? Not saying it isn't possible but if (and granted that is an "if") warmer weather will help curb the spread we're a looooong way from that number. What I just looked at has us at 9415 confirmed cases and 150 deaths.
 
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hndog609 said:
In the US? Not saying it isn't possible but if (and granted that is an "if") warmer weather will help curb the spread we're a looooong way from that number. What I just looked at has us at 9415 confirmed cases and 150 deaths.
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150 divided by 9415 = 0.0159320234
 
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allvol123 said:
If we had an increased spread of intelligence we would not care about this virus.
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So you're still at we should not care about this virus, even now?

No one should panic, few are as far as I can tell, but we have to aggressively confront this now until we can find a way to surge our healthcare capacity. That is what is going on right now.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Oh I don't know... China suspending trade, which would leave us totally fooked.
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Oh you mean if they decided to control our country based on the the amount of production we’ve allowed them to have when making products we need ? Good , now would be the absolute best time for them to do that so we can get away from depending on them for the things we NEED not bobbles and trinkets we WANT . If the outcome of this virus doesn’t force us to become more self reliant on our own manufacturing processes and less dependent on China , it will be a huge mistake on our part as a country . If we are so afraid of offending a country by the words we say on the off chance they will cut off product we depend on .. who are the fools in this scenario?
 
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Rifleman said:
So you're still at we should not care about this virus, even now?

No one should panic, few are as far as I can tell, but we have to aggressively confront this now until we can find a way to surge our healthcare capacity. That is what is going on right now.
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No, I'm at we shouldnt annihilate our society and way of life over a virus that will likely equal a months worth of heart disease deaths.

Few are panicking? You have no credibility at this point.
 
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