2020 Primaries

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Rickyvol77 said:
There are reasons the big cities have the issues that smaller rural areas of states don’t have.
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What's that they say to Sherlock?
Cities have faced issues not faced by rural areas throughout world history.
Nothing new and nothing American.
 
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luthervol said:
What's that they say to Sherlock?
Cities have faced issues not faced by rural areas throughout world history.
Nothing new and nothing American.
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But the difference is that the EC and the Congressional set up in general helps prevent the big cities from enforcing their stupid laws and beliefs on everyone else in the country
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I've already told you how that makes sense. The popular vote elections are state populations choosing state representation. The President is not chosen by a state to represent the state. He is chosen by all states to represent all states. So, the FFs chose the electoral college to prevent a few states from choosing the guy who will represent all states.
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He’s not chosen by states, he’s chosen by citizens.
 
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C-south said:
No, it’s the population of that physical location that matters how your vote counts which is the same for everyone else.
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How is that any different than what I said? Your physical location determines the weight of your vote. That statement is not wrong.
 
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carlos86 said:
I’m here for the Bernie Bro tears.
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OHvol40 said:
He’s not chosen by states, he’s chosen by citizens.
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He's chosen by state electoral college. That's what you want to change, remember?

But alas, it explains (again) the difference between the elections that seems to befuddle you. Each state choosing their state reps vs all states choosing a joint federal rep.
OHvol40 said:
Again, just because the status quo is the status quo doesn’t make it appropriate.
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You keep saying this while proving yourself incapable of making a rational argument for the change you want, or why it's "inappropriate". (Changing the word you use doesn't mean you've established your premise.)

I'm still all ears if you ever get around to not soiling yourself in the spotlight.
 
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C-south said:
Exactly. The 2 million citizens in Montana, Wyoming, and North Dakota shouldn’t have their voices squashed by 10 million in California.
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Just as the small town people shouldn't have their voices squashed by the city slickers in a statewide election?

Does the vote by a person in Nashville count for more, less, or the same as the vote by a person in Sneedville in statewide elections? Is that the way it should be?
 
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luthervol said:
Just as the small town people shouldn't have their voices squashed by the city slickers in a statewide election?

Does the vote by a person in Nashville count for more, less, or the same as the vote by a person in Sneedville in statewide elections? Is that the way it should be?
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I'd argue that the State of Virginia is a glowing example of what can go wrong with an overpopulated area out voting 90% of the property area of a state. Many Virginians I know hate it there now and are looking to move.
 
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luthervol said:
Just as the small town people shouldn't have their voices squashed by the city slickers in a statewide election?

Does the vote by a person in Nashville count for more, less, or the same as the vote by a person in Sneedville in statewide elections? Is that the way it should be?
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That’s why we have state elected officials.
 
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luthervol said:
Just as the small town people shouldn't have their voices squashed by the city slickers in a statewide election?

Does the vote by a person in Nashville count for more, less, or the same as the vote by a person in Sneedville in statewide elections? Is that the way it should be?
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I've heard far too many people from Illinois, California, etc that have transplanted to Tennessee for the very reason you bring up. They all argue for an EC at the state level, and I personally won't argue against it.

But for the sake of the discussion at hand--i.e. the difference between congressional and presidential elections--it seems the FFs made the distinction of "local" representation to be at the state level, and moved on.
 
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luthervol said:
Just as the small town people shouldn't have their voices squashed by the city slickers in a statewide election?

Does the vote by a person in Nashville count for more, less, or the same as the vote by a person in Sneedville in statewide elections? Is that the way it should be?
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Whatever we think of it now, it was one of the compromises that brought the states into agreement about a Constitution. It’s nothing more or less than that.
 
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