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Evidenced by multiple deaths at one facility
Doesn’t prove anything. If one person in the facility contracts the virus, before it’s even known that they’re sick that person can spread it to others at the facility just through normal interaction. The fact that they’re elderly automatically increases their risk of dying from it.
 
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If you're sick, you should already be taking those steps. People with mild or no symptoms are most likely not to seek out tests just as a matter of convenience.

Absolutely. You can really get something bad sitting in waiting rooms only to find out that you initially just had a cold.
 
Exactly.

We shouldn't wait until it kills more in other nursing homes before implementing better sanitary measures. Better start now than when it's too late.
What should they do? Require everyone in every nursing home to wear masks and gloves at all times, and limit all interaction to zero?

If someone in your home contracts the virus, the chances of someone else in your home contracting it is GREATLY increased regardless of how sanitary your home is solely based on the amount of interaction you all have. It’s significantly worse in a nursing home due to their weakened immune system.
 
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This might be an opportunity. If a couple of my coworkers die I might be able to get a raise out of it.

Actually it might be a lesson to business (not really likely) that lean and mean has disadvantages, too. An extra body here and there in critical positions can keep things moving when bad things happen.
 
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So we've been speculating that there were potentially thousands of cases not caught but the WHO trip to Wuhan doesn't seem to support that and the death rate of 3.4% could really be correct. Also the Chinese definition of the 80% of "mild" cases people will get will result in fever and possibly pneumonia. Meanwhile that 15% of severe cases will need oxygen or ventilators.


I know what I saw on TV was a bunch of excavators in a semi synchronized dance routine doing nothing work worthy in a level field ... and a bunch of shoddy prefab buildings somewhere later on pretending to be a brand new hospital. Seems like if you wanted to smooth out a field, a bulldozer would be the thing rather than a hundred excavators. Does their medical system work in a similar manner?
 
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We are going in circles. I already explained that you can’t have confirmed case growth if you can’t or aren’t able to test.

You are free to believe that the lack of testing is in correlation to low amounts of people showing symptoms and I hope that’s true, but there isn’t great evidence to support that. But again, I hope it’s true.

So they had 200 tests and then ran out?
 
As far as testing goes, yes. It’s essential. When someone goes to the doctor or hospital complaining about a fever or respiratory issues, they need to be tested in order to determine whether or not they have it. This allows medical personnel to know whether or not the person needs to be quarantined. It also lets them know whether the people in close contact with the person need to be tested. Without knowing, that person’s family members would continue to go to work/school and continue to spread the virus.

How many people spread stuff in waiting rooms waiting to be tested? I've never thought hospitals in particular were safe places ... you can get some very nasty stuff you don't want there.
 
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How many people spread stuff in waiting rooms waiting to be tested? I've never thought hospitals in particular were safe places ... you can get some very nasty stuff you don't want there.


Anything to reduce the # of cases, right? Reported or otherwise.
 
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Not the ones who know what they are doing. Knox county has had 10 suspected cases and proper isolation procedures were had without any suits being needed.

How many people might they have infected in a hospital while in the process of being checked in, screened, and isolated?
 
I know what I saw on TV was a bunch of excavators in a semi synchronized dance routine doing nothing work worthy in a level field ... and a bunch of shoddy prefab buildings somewhere later on pretending to be a brand new hospital. Seems like if you wanted to smooth out a field, a bulldozer would be the thing rather than a hundred excavators. Does their medical system work in a similar manner?

The first time I was in Shanghai I marveled at the army of men and women who swept the streets each morning with a little broom and a dustpan.

I asked my local handler there why they didn’t just use street sweepers. He told me it was to keep employment up.
 
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It makes it more necessary to test even when symptoms are not severe.
There is no stopping this virus now, once the Uber driver got it, the high school teacher, the merchant etc. this is going to spread faster than lightning. You can test everyone in the country and you won't stop it, it was inevitable. Maybe warmer weather might help but this is when you know if you have good genes or not.
 
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My point is just that it’s a binary argument. If you say “zero,” then the only way to ensure that would be to take that “personal accountability and responsibility” to the extreme and isolate yourself until the problem is solved. Anything other than that becomes a number between 1 and infinity which then becomes an emotional argument.

I’m in no way saying people should blow this off. Be responsible. But unfortunately the only way to truly decrease the risk to others is to have complete knowledge of the disease.

One should hope that everyone would respond with zero, but ya never know in today’s environment. 🥴

The premise was, if you say zero are you educated enough on the virus to take the necessary steps to protect yourself and your loved ones with whatever means you deem best, be that altering daily habits, a version of PPE, self isolation or any combination of responses. What appears as extreme panicked overkill to one may be a potential lifesaving necessity to another. Trust in yourself because you can’t count on anyone else to have personal accountability and responsibility in their response to this virus. No one else, including government entities, has your best interest at heart.
 
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I for the life of me don't understand the panic behind this virus. What idiots think they need to make a run on hand sanitizer and toilet paper, like that is going to save their life? If the world goes to crap it's going to be who is the better marksman or has the superior firepower that survives.
 
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