2020 Primaries

[C-south]

Usually since there is a giant need for the service, it is edited not scrapped.

Such as? Hell even when people become self sufficient and are able to remove themselves from government assistance the dims look at as a bad thing.

 

[C-south]

Many have gone to other nations for affordable prescriptions, care, etc.

Bye

 

[zeppelin128]

Because it is needed. You can't just scrap it. If something isn't working, fix it. Don't get rid of it.

That isn't what Bernie stands for. He wants to abolish private insurance. That is getting rid of it, not fixing it.

 

[0nelilreb]

Because it is needed. You can't just scrap it. If something isn't working, fix it. Don't get rid of it.

You have to vote for it to find out what’s in it ... no thanks

 

[hog88]

So by your logic, our tax revenue went up when Trump cut taxes?

That's just not true, taxes go up, revenue goes up. Yes some people may be able to escape it, but there that's why Bernie's plan also includes many anti-corruption and crackdowns on elite practices.

It is true.

U.S. Tax Revenue by Year
Fiscal Year Revenue FY 2021 $3.86 (estimated)
FY 2020 $3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019 $3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018 $3.33 trillion
FY 2017 $3.32 trillion
FY 2016 $3.27 trillion
FY 2015 $3.25 trillion
FY 2014 $3.02 trillion
FY 2013 $2.77 trillion
FY 2012 $2.45 trillion
FY 2011 $2.30 trillion
FY 2010 $2.16 trillion
FY 2009 $2.10 trillion
FY 2008 $2.52 trillion

Who Really Pays Uncle Sam's Bills?

 

[zaqhhh]

Such as? Hell even when people become self sufficient and are able to remove themselves from government assistance the dims look at as a bad thing.

Doesn't make any sense at all? If you get off of government assistance, I think that's great. I just don't hate you when you do need it like Repubs.

 

[zaqhhh]

It is true.



Who Really Pays Uncle Sam's Bills?

Look at the rates of change, we have more payers rn so it's going up regardless. The rates of increase have still gone down.

 

[1972 Grad]

So by your logic, our tax revenue went up when Trump cut taxes?

That's just not true, taxes go up, revenue goes up. Yes some people may be able to escape it, but there that's why Bernie's plan also includes many anti-corruption and crackdowns on elite practices.

Tax increase does not mean revenue increase. Revenues have increased after about all tax cuts that I remember. The problem is spending, not revenue.

 

[1972 Grad]

I don’t think Kerry is that likable is he ? Maybe it’s just me

He isn't. He is just another in a long list of elitists.

 

[zaqhhh]

That isn't what Bernie stands for. He wants to abolish private insurance. That is getting rid of it, not fixing it.

That's isn't a government program which is what the conversation is about.

Private insurance doesn't work in other nations and it isn't working here. Just drives up cost by making it more complicated.

 

[Persian Vol]

Those are pretty bad support numbers imo. Amongst the party that supports it you only get max 62% support? The border wall support amongst republicans has been around 75%, and is considered to have weak party support.

The point is that it illustrates the strategic flaw that the centrists have been using in regards to how they have all bundled together in a lane that aggressively opposes a plan that the majority in the party do in fact support.

 

[C-south]

So by your logic, our tax revenue went up when Trump cut taxes?

That's just not true, taxes go up, revenue goes up. Yes some people may be able to escape it, but there that's why Bernie's plan also includes many anti-corruption and crackdowns on elite practices.

It’s a proven fact coffers increase with lower taxes than with raising taxes. Only a person that doesn’t pay taxes would be for a tax increase.

 

[hog88]

Look at the rates of change, we have more payers rn so it's going up regardless. The rates of increase have still gone down.

Ok, so we're moving the goal posts now. I'll play.

What happens to .gov revenue when unemployment goes up and it will with Benies policies? With the stroke of a pen he plans to put a million insurance employees out of work, he'll put thousands of energy workers in the unemployment line and so on.

 

[zaqhhh]

It’s a proven fact coffers increase with lower taxes than with raising taxes. Only a person that doesn’t pay taxes would be for a tax increase.

If deductibles/co-pays go away, I am all for paying more in taxes.

 

[0nelilreb]

That's isn't a government program which is what the conversation is about.

Private insurance doesn't work in other nations and it isn't working here. Just drives up cost by making it more complicated.

BS .. private insurance does work in other nations . People are choosing the private over the government ran because of the quality it offers .

 

[37L1]

BS private insurance does work in other nations . People are choosing the private over the government ran because of the quality it offers .

More like the wait times.

 

[C-south]

Doesn't make any sense at all? If you get off of government assistance, I think that's great. I just don't hate you when you do need it like Repubs.

Bs. Nobody minds having a SAFETY NET when people need it but if you need government assistance for life then there’s a bigger issue at hand. Your bad decisions and failures shouldn’t be put at everyone else’s (taxpayers) feet.

 

[zaqhhh]

Ok, so we're moving the goal posts now. I'll play.

What happens to .gov revenue when unemployment goes up and it will with Benies policies? With the stroke of a pen he plans to put a million insurance employees out of work, he'll put thousands of energy workers in the unemployment line and so on.

The energy workers are already going to lose their jobs and we have to transition now in order to avoid climate catastrophe (which ik you don't believe in). We can provide them with Green Jobs.

There is a transition period where we will be able to slowly transition workers over to different markets. There will be many more government jobs created as well.

 

[0nelilreb]

More like the wait times.

Both my buddy said it’s just garbage in the U.K. He was just messing with me ( I think ) but he said that garbage was for poor people .

 

[zaqhhh]

Bs. Nobody minds having a SAFETY NET when people need it but if you need government assistance for life then there’s a bigger issue at hand. Your bad decisions and failures shouldn’t be put at everyone else’s (taxpayers) feet.

See that's your problem, most of these people aren't making bad decisions. They are hard working Americans that you spit on and blame.

 

[hog88]

That's isn't a government program which is what the conversation is about.

Private insurance doesn't work in other nations and it isn't working here. Just drives up cost by making it more complicated.

Private insurance is available in many countries that have socialized medicine, Australia for one. And from my Aussie friends if you have kids you want private insurance and do not want to use the gov system.

 

[zeppelin128]

Just goes to show the direction of the party when "centrist" is now a bad word. Absolute insanity. See how things go in future elections when the Rose Twitter bunch pushes moderates and liberals like myself out of the party.

 

[37L1]

See that's your problem, most of these people aren't making bad decisions. They are hard working Americans that you spit on and blame.

Get out of here with that BS. No one is spitting on anyone or blaming anyone.

A Bernie Bro who doesn't know basic economics, how surprising.

 

[hog88]

If deductibles/co-pays go away, I am all for paying more in taxes.

Wages will go down and unemployment will go up.

 

[zaqhhh]

Get out of here with that BS. No one is spitting on anyone or blaming anyone.

A Bernie Bro who doesn't know basic economics, how surprising.

Lol you havent proven anything but keep alienating people, see how that goes. Ra Ra Ra socialism.