2020 Primaries

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Mick said:
I've already said I will vote for him if it came down to it, but Pete is the right choice. Bernie bro's are angry because of the last time. Lets just hope they learned their lesson and actually get out and vote in the General this time no matter who the nomination is. Now is not the time for such a course correction.
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You're alright Mick.
 
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LouderVol said:
Would you consider yourself a "never Bernie" Dem?
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I hope to not have to worry about it.
I will never vote for Trump in a million years. But I'm struggling deciding about Bernie. Not voting is not an option, as that is basically a vote for Trump. But Bernie is too far left for me on economic issues. And his legions of online minions have really pissed me off about his campaign. I honestly don't know what I'm going to do if Bernie is the nominee yet. If that unthinkable scenario happens, I'm glad I have until November to think about it.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I hope to not have to worry about it.
I will never vote for Trump in a million years. But I'm struggling deciding about Bernie. Not voting is not an option, as that is basically a vote for Trump. But Bernie is too far left for me on economic issues. And his legions of online minions have really pissed me off about his campaign. I honestly don't know what I'm going to do if Bernie is the nominee yet. If that unthinkable scenario happens, I'm glad I have until November to think about it.
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How will you feel if it ends up in brokered convention and none of the current candidates receive the nomination?
 
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zaqhhh said:
You do realize like 75% of all the policies you criticized above have been enacted in much of Europe already?
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With like 15x time less the military budget percentage. Take away our socializing of their military budget and watch those programs disappear.

Also they are in debt too.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I hope to not have to worry about it.
I will never vote for Trump in a million years. But I'm struggling deciding about Bernie. Not voting is not an option, as that is basically a vote for Trump. But Bernie is too far left for me on economic issues. And his legions of online minions have really pissed me off about his campaign. I honestly don't know what I'm going to do if Bernie is the nominee yet. If that unthinkable scenario happens, I'm glad I have until November to think about it.
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Join the dark side of us 3rd party voters.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
I hope to not have to worry about it.
I will never vote for Trump in a million years. But I'm struggling deciding about Bernie. Not voting is not an option, as that is basically a vote for Trump. But Bernie is too far left for me on economic issues. And his legions of online minions have really pissed me off about his campaign. I honestly don't know what I'm going to do if Bernie is the nominee yet. If that unthinkable scenario happens, I'm glad I have until November to think about it.
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Face it. Come November you'll still be screwed.
 
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hog88 said:
How will you feel if it ends up in brokered convention and none of the current candidates receive the nomination?
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I will not be happy with that situation. If it goes to a contested convention, it needs to be between whoever is still running. No sneaky Hillary please.
 
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37L1 said:
Brokered convention = super delegates. I'd be wary if Bloomberg is still around, $$$$$$$$$.
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I knew I should have knee-capped that Bloomberg "volunteer" canvassing the same neighborhood I was canvassing on Saturday...
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zeppelin128 said:
I hope to not have to worry about it.
I will never vote for Trump in a million years. But I'm struggling deciding about Bernie. Not voting is not an option, as that is basically a vote for Trump. But Bernie is too far left for me on economic issues. And his legions of online minions have really pissed me off about his campaign. I honestly don't know what I'm going to do if Bernie is the nominee yet. If that unthinkable scenario happens, I'm glad I have until November to think about it.
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You and I are likethis concerning this matter. The only thing I can think is that there will be a gridlock if he is elected, since many Democrats are not on board with his extreme ideas. (and Republicans definitely won't be) I will have a hard time voting my family members out of their good wages in the insurance industry.

He has been pretty unscathed, and I see the non-Bernie Dems have the knives out now-- It didn't work for the Republicans with Trump when it looked like he'd be the nominee, but maybe Bernie isn't like Teflon Don.
 
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zaqhhh said:
That's just categorically wrong.

Why does our private capitalist model of healthcare cost 2x more per person than the next closest country while failing to insure everyone? Not to mention underinsuring a huge percentage more?
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Lol. You know they are broke right? There is a reason they are "cheaper". Death panels, refusals of care etc. working for the government they dont have to be fiscally or morally responsible.
 
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I'll say this, as a Bernie fan. I think there is going to be massive realignment either way.

I personally know 3 Republicans (2 of which backed Trump in 16') backing Bernie. We can grab a decent proportion of populist independents and Republicans.

I assume some centrist Dems will back Trump or vote 3rd Party.

This is not going to be an easy election for Dems anyway you cut it.

If it's not Bernie, I will back the nominee assuming it is not Bloomberg and that the DNC doesn't pull anything at the convention.

But look at the national polls, if you don't like him on ideology that's fine.

But if you are hesitating because he can't beat Trump, there is no evidence that he performs worse than any other Dem.
 
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LouderVol said:
Lol. You know they are broke right? There is a reason they are "cheaper". Death panels, refusals of care etc. working for the government they dont have to be fiscally or morally responsible.
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Then why haven't they switched to our system?
 
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zaqhhh said:
I'll say this, as a Bernie fan. I think there is going to be massive realignment either way.

I personally know 3 Republicans (2 of which backed Trump in 16') backing Bernie. We can grab a decent proportion of populist independents and Republicans.

I assume some centrist Dems will back Trump or vote 3rd Party.

This is not going to be an easy election for Dems anyway you cut it.

If it's not Bernie, I will back the nominee assuming it is not Bloomberg and that the DNC doesn't pull anything at the convention.

But look at the national polls, if you don't like him on ideology that's fine.

But if you are hesitating because he can't beat Trump, there is no evidence that he performs worse than any other Dem.
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If ANY republican is backing Bernie they were never a republican.
 
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zaqhhh said:
I'll say this, as a Bernie fan. I think there is going to be massive realignment either way.

I personally know 3 Republicans (2 of which backed Trump in 16') backing Bernie. We can grab a decent proportion of populist independents and Republicans.

I assume some centrist Dems will back Trump or vote 3rd Party.

This is not going to be an easy election for Dems anyway you cut it.

If it's not Bernie, I will back the nominee assuming it is not Bloomberg and that the DNC doesn't pull anything at the convention.

But look at the national polls, if you don't like him on ideology that's fine.

But if you are hesitating because he can't beat Trump, there is no evidence that he performs worse than any other Dem.
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How does Bernie plan on paying for his massive giveaways once he has picked the pockets of all the millionaires and billionaires?
 
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