2020 SOTU Speech Thread

#829
#829
Smokeyone said:
Pretty much the overwhelming majority of those not in the handful of socialist enclaves are big fans of Trump right now....
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You realize he was talking about a socialist enclave right? Just because they ignore it doesn't make it less true
 
#831
#831
Smokeyone said:
Pretty much the overwhelming majority of those not in the handful of socialist enclaves are big fans of Trump right now....
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It's odd then that his approval polling wouldn't reflect that.

I think there's merit in pointing out the his hypocrisy in lambasting the libtards as socialist on one hand while doling out $28 billion in taxpayer dollars to prop up the farm industry with the other.
 
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utvolpj said:
The gop loves to ignore the primary and focus on Hillary because they now realize what they gave up. My argument isn't about Hillary and never was. Not sure why the tactic from the right seems to only consist of "but the other guy..."
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What did the GOP give up in the primary? Which viable candidate running on the R side was going to reduce spending, reduce the size and scope of Federalism, and expand individual liberty?
 
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Septic said:
It's odd then that his approval polling wouldn't reflect that.

I think there's merit in pointing out the his hypocrisy in lambasting the libtards as socialist on one hand while doling out $28 billion in taxpayer dollars to prop up the farm industry with the other.
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The bovine I worship can't be bad. The bovine other people worship are the real bad cows.
 
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McDad said:
What did the GOP give up in the primary? Which viable candidate running on the R side was going to reduce spending, reduce the size and scope of Federalism, and expand individual liberty?
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Rand, Kasich, and I'm sure a couple others but it's been a while. I'm just amazed at the constant claims that trump is a staunch fiscal conservative when that is not the case. He never had been and even admitted it last night but no one seems to care
 
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volfanjustin said:
Lazy democrats and illegals are yuuuge fans of the DNC socialism
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Just imagine the amount of border wall trump could have built if he hadn't channeled his inner Karl Marx by making it rain Benjamins all over the farmers.

$28 billion. Billions with a B.

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utvolpj said:
Rand, Kasich, and I'm sure a couple others but it's been a while. I'm just amazed at the constant claims that trump is a staunch fiscal conservative when that is not the case. He never had been and even admitted it last night but no one seems to care
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Republicans found out in 2016 that their base is a lot less conservative and far more populist than they realized.
 
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McDad said:
The bovine I worship can't be bad. The bovine other people worship are the real bad cows.
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I'll kill my bovine and then yours, then everyone else's. No one should have a bovine.
 
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Septic said:
It's odd then that his approval polling wouldn't reflect that.

I think there's merit in pointing out the his hypocrisy in lambasting the libtards as socialist on one hand while doling out $28 billion in taxpayer dollars to prop up the farm industry with the other.
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The voting record supports it and is reflective of regional trends that do not show in polling data.
 
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utvolpj said:
You realize he was talking about a socialist enclave right? Just because they ignore it doesn't make it less true
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Oh no, the farm aid bill makes us all socialist. It's a weak argument. We do not have a pure capitalist system and haven't in a very long time.
 
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Smokeyone said:
Oh no, the farm aid bill makes us all socialist. It's a weak argument. We do not have a pure capitalist system and haven't in a very long time.
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No but it makes the claim that he's demolishing socialist policies pretty ridiculous. Add on other things and promises last night and the claims fall apart even more. He's not what the right used to want in their politicians (at least that's what they claimed)
 
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#848
utvolpj said:
Rand, Kasich, and I'm sure a couple others but it's been a while. I'm just amazed at the constant claims that trump is a staunch fiscal conservative when that is not the case. He never had been and even admitted it last night but no one seems to care
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No one seems to care because politics is about beating the other team right now. Sucks. I didn't believe Kasich was fiscally conservative as governor. Rand talks a good game but simply cannot seem to connect with voters.
 
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Smokeyone said:
The presidential election. You know, the last election he was on the ballot for...
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So discounting my evidence that there have been shifts left in regional purple state and that the poll of polls shows continued disapproval - you're going to point at an election where he didn't even win the popular vote?

Tell me more about this "overwhelming majority" you speak of. Is it your assertion that liberal enclaves (urban votes) should count because rural ones should count more? Is population density a new litmus test for patriotism?
 
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