The Impeachment Thread

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#34,776
1972 Grad said:
Yep. Obama was working on getting us out of NAFTA, out of TPP, out of the Iran deal, the Paris Climate Accords, Obama had already dropped the Obamacare mandates, had already cut taxes, opened up pipelines, expanded our domestic oil production, natural gas fracking. Obama was really hammering on our allies to help pay for their own defense, beef up the military, reduce federal sentencing for drug crimes, etc. This was all after Obama moved the capital from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and closed Gitmo. ……..Obama was a busy, busy man with all he accomplished in only 8 years.
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For one thing, Trump didn't get us out of NAFTA. He simply re-branded it while changing very little. You are talking like getting out of the Iran deal and the Paris Climate Accords are undeniably positive. That is absurd. Both things have compromised the United State's position as a world leader. However, just like with NAFTA, I think Trump would cut the same deal with Iran, as long as he could re-brand it and get full credit for it.
 
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#34,777
BowlBrother85 said:
For one thing, Trump didn't get us out of NAFTA. He simply re-branded it while changing very little. You are talking like getting out of the Iran deal and the Paris Climate Accords are undeniably positive. That is absurd. Both things have compromised the United State's position as a world leader. However, just like with NAFTA, I think Trump would cut the same deal with Iran, as long as he could re-brand it and get full credit for it.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about Obama setting the stage for the China deal too.
 
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#34,778
BowlBrother85 said:
I can give him some credit... I think the tax cuts have helped and some of the de-regulation has as well. However, Trump started with a distinct advantage with a workforce of 145.7 million, 9% larger than when Barack Obama took office. Additionally, over President Obama's last six years and five years in office, after the Great Recession, the average employment gains were 2.42 and 2.48 million jobs per year. To provide a monthly comparison, the average employment gain in Obama's last five years in office was 207,000. That is virtually the same as what we have now. There is considerable evidence that the economic growth under Trump was really just a continuation of what had started under Obama. I know the conservatives here don't want to hear that... but it's the reality when you look at the numbers.

But like I said, I can give Trump credit for the tax cuts.
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Oh there’s no doubt Obama took over a **** sandwich. Which is why it’s laughable when Trump supporters try to show polls comparing the two at this point in their presidency.
 
#34,782
#34,782
BowlBrother85 said:
For one thing, Trump didn't get us out of NAFTA. He simply re-branded it while changing very little. You are talking like getting out of the Iran deal and the Paris Climate Accords are undeniably positive. That is absurd. Both things have compromised the United State's position as a world leader. However, just like with NAFTA, I think Trump would cut the same deal with Iran, as long as he could re-brand it and get full credit for it.
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What’s the Difference Between USMCA and Good Old NAFTA? - USAREALLY.COM
 
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#34,784
evillawyer said:
This is glorious. I hope they have this on a loop outside the Senate on that truck while dershoshitz is making his argument.

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Lawrence Tribe is a liberal hack suffering from at least Stage 4 TDS, plus Trump hasn't corrupted the office of President, abused trust, nor does he pose a great danger to our liberty.
 
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#34,785
evillawyer said:
This is glorious. I hope they have this on a loop outside the Senate on that truck while dershoshitz is making his argument.

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So when you are hired by a client do you argue what’s best for them or what you think? Scumbag. And yes lawyers are scum. I am a child of one. Who was a great dad. And I am confident way more accomplished then you. After he retired he confided that being lawyer was worse then being a whore.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
For one thing, Trump didn't get us out of NAFTA. He simply re-branded it while changing very little. You are talking like getting out of the Iran deal and the Paris Climate Accords are undeniably positive. That is absurd. Both things have compromised the United State's position as a world leader. However, just like with NAFTA, I think Trump would cut the same deal with Iran, as long as he could re-brand it and get full credit for it.
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Why are other European countries now getting it if the Iran deal?
 
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#34,788
1972 Grad said:
Lawrence Tribe is a liberal hack suffering from at least Stage 4 TDS, plus Trump hasn't corrupted the office of President, abused trust, nor does he pose a great danger to our liberty.
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Yes he has he appointed 2 conservative supreme court justices
 
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#34,790
volfanhill said:
So when you are hired by a client do you argue what’s best for them or what you think? Scumbag.
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You can do whatever you want, but it's completely fair to use his past public statements against him. They are not consistent with each other. Dershowitz can not claim to be arguing from a point of principle. His arguments vary from case to case.
 
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#34,791
1972 Grad said:
Lawrence Tribe is a liberal hack suffering from at least Stage 4 TDS, plus Trump hasn't corrupted the office of President, abused trust, nor does he pose a great danger to our liberty.
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If you believe, as many people do, that he leveraged congressionally approved military aid to the Ukraine, in exchange for a campaign favor? Then yes, he has done both of those things in spades.
 
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#34,793
BowlBrother85 said:
You can do whatever you want, but it's completely fair to use his past public statements against him. They are not consistent with each other. Dershowitz can not claim to be arguing from a point of principle. His arguments vary from case to case.
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That’s not how it works. You don’t argue in court what the lawyer argued before.
 
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#34,794
volfanhill said:
That’s not how it works. You don’t argue in court what the lawyer argued before.
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I wasn't talking about using his past public statements in court... I meant when attacking his credibility on places such as cable news, it's fair to bring up his inconsistent statements. And I don't think that Dershowitz will appear before the Senate. He is basically just a consultant for Jay Sekulow.
 
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#34,795
BowlBrother85 said:
I wasn't talking about using his past public statements in court... I meant when attacking his credibility on places such as cable news, it's fair to bring up his inconsistent statements. And I don't think that Dershowitz will appear before the Senate. He is basically just a consultant for Jay Sekulow.
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I agree with your first part. I think he will run the show for trump. It won’t matter. We all know he won’t be removed.
 
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#34,797
BowlBrother85 said:
You can do whatever you want, but it's completely fair to use his past public statements against him. They are not consistent with each other. Dershowitz can not claim to be arguing from a point of principle. His arguments vary from case to case.
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Like "if you want to keep your Dr you can keep your dr"?"
 
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#34,799
BowlBrother85 said:
Were you in the booth with him? There is no way to know that... I wouldn't believe a word he says. Dershowitz is an opportunist.
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You sir never get the opportunity to say anything about a conspiracy theory. For someone to say you don't believe a known Democrat liberalman when he tells you who he voted for. You must have a miserable life.
 
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#34,800
BowlBrother85 said:
You can do whatever you want, but it's completely fair to use his past public statements against him. They are not consistent with each other. Dershowitz can not claim to be arguing from a point of principle. His arguments vary from case to case.
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Similar to the 180 the Dems did regarding the whistle blower testifying?
 
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