Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[Sleegro]

My Arkansas friend said Chad Morris supposedly had a huge graphic of he and Deshaun Watson in Clemson gear up in the entrance to the Arky football complex. He didnt move his family to Fayetteville. There was 0 buy in from players because it appeared their HC had one foot out the door from day 1.

Sounds like kiffin.

 

[jakez4ut]

We know dooley ain't elite, but in their situation, he's probably the smart hire.

actually, i agree. they would be doing what we SHOULD HAVE done way back when, by hiring Kippy, and if nothing else, weather the storm to see what happens, or what else shakes out....especially with the ESD, you just don't have time to fire and hire a guy and still recruit. you can set things back at a program like mizzou, ark or ole miss at least a couple years in recruiting.....if not handled right. year zero is a real thing now, and not just at TN. lol.

 

[engineerVOL]

My Arkansas friend said Chad Morris supposedly had a huge graphic of he and Deshaun Watson in Clemson gear up in the entrance to the Arky football complex. He didnt move his family to Fayetteville. There was 0 buy in from players because it appeared their HC had one foot out the door from day 1.

Well that’s not good.

 

[jakez4ut]

Sounds like kiffin.

at least they got to call their shot with Morris......lol.

 

[Weezer]

My jelly rolls fold over it while sitting and goes everywhere making a mess

Seriously, wtf??! Do I even want to go back and read what this conversation is about, or is it about what I think it is?

 

[Catbone]

Well that’s not good.

Well it definitely seemed like ole Miss players were far more upset than Arkansas players after their coach was canned

 

[Weezer]

Army wearing 1st Cavalry Division uniforms for the Army-Navy game next weekend. This rivalry is a great example of why college football is the best sport on Earth.

Army to honor 1st Cavalry Division with new unis against rival Navy

That's nice.

Go Navy!!!!

 

[InVOLuntary]

Mizzou did Barry Odom wrong. Ole Miss did Matt Luke wrong. Arkansas did Chad Morris wrong (although man his team sucked).

I don’t agree with any of those decisions. But most surprised with Mizzou.

The only SEC coach I would have fired this year may have been Derek Mason. But he had equity from the bowls, three wins against Tennessee, and an AD who doesn’t want to spend the buyout so I get it.

I agree except for Morris. Giving him another year was most likely delaying the inevitable. Odom and Luke were different, IMO. Both took over teams with baggage from the NCAA. Both were trying to weather the storm to get out from under that. Heck, Mizzou still had a bowl ban in place. Both programs screwed up, IMO. I think Luke probably would still be the coach had one of his players not pulled his stupid stunt. Even if they had lost in overtime, I think he would have been retained. The dog pee incident was the proverbial straw IMO.

 

[3rdDegreeVol]

Favorite traditional Christmas song(s):
Oh Holy Night and Hark! The Herald Angels Sing

Favorite secular Christmas song:
Tennessee Christmas (Amy Grant version)

Songs I turn off immediately:
Christmas Shoes
Mary Did you Know

Favorite traditional Christmas song(s):
Silent Night
O Holy Night

Favorite secular Christmas songs:
The Christmas Song (Nat King Cole, 1961 version)
Christmas Time Is Here
It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year (Andy Williams)
Winter Wonderland (Johnny Mathis)
Santa Claus is Coming to Town (Bruce Springsteen)
Carol of the Bells (TSO)
Old City Bar (TSO)

Songs I turn off immediately:
Santa Baby
Baby It's Cold Outside
edit: Last Christmas (especially the Wham version)

 

[Weezer]

We know dooley ain't elite, but in their situation, he's probably the smart hire.

Someone needs to hire Butch so we can stop paying his ass. Give him a call Arkansas!

 

[snowvols]

My Arkansas friend said Chad Morris supposedly had a huge graphic of he and Deshaun Watson in Clemson gear up in the entrance to the Arky football complex. He didnt move his family to Fayetteville. There was 0 buy in from players because it appeared their HC had one foot out the door from day 1.

I think he was just letting his son finish high school in TX. He's a 4* QB and had just won a state championship at his high school in TX when his dad was hired at Arkansas. He probably didnt want to transfer schools.

 

[bignewt]

I agree except for Morris. Giving him another year was most likely delaying the inevitable. Odom and Luke were different, IMO. Both took over teams with baggage from the NCAA. Both were trying to weather the storm to get out from under that. Heck, Mizzou still had a bowl ban in place. Both programs screwed up, IMO. I think Luke probably would still be the coach had one of his players not pulled his stupid stunt. Even if they had lost in overtime, I think he would have been retained. The dog pee incident was the proverbial straw IMO.

could you imagine losing your seven figure job that you love because of "the dog pee incident?'

 

[Weezer]

Agreed on all accounts, however, new, young coaches are usually able to recruit really well once they start winning. We haven’t been able to do that to this point.

I don’t know. We might be following the Barnes tactic of laying a foundation of hard work with “good guys” but that only worked for Barnes because he won at an extremely high level a year early. Also think it’s easier to be picky on a basketball roster.

I say all this to say I don’t think football recruiting has been bad - it’s been average for us historically as a program and I think statistically a little bit better than what Dooley or Butch did here (minus Butch’s one great class.)

I don’t know. I’ve said this before but I thought Pruitt would recruit like Kiffin did here. That style had it’s obvious drawbacks but we were getting elite talent.

Look past initial class rankings at attrition and who actually became contributors and I think Pruitt's classes will grade out fairly well in comparison.

 

[Jack Burton]

FUN FACT FOR THE DAY:

Screen actor Logan Marshal-Green is a Tennessee Vol. He did his undergrad at UT while writing for the Daily Beacon and then moving on to NYU for grad school. You may know him best from his role as the jerk in Prometheus.


If you are a cinephile I suggest watching him in the lead roles of the creepy film The Invitation and sci fi thriller Upgrade where he is implanted with body controlling AI.



He named his recent first born son Tennessee.

 

[InVOLuntary]

could you imagine losing your seven figure job that you love because of "the dog pee incident?'

At least he got paid handsomely to leave.

 

[jakez4ut]

I agree except for Morris. Giving him another year was most likely delaying the inevitable. Odom and Luke were different, IMO. Both took over teams with baggage from the NCAA. Both were trying to weather the storm to get out from under that. Heck, Mizzou still had a bowl ban in place. Both programs screwed up, IMO. I think Luke probably would still be the coach had one of his players not pulled his stupid stunt. Even if they had lost in overtime, I think he would have been retained. The dog pee incident was the proverbial straw IMO.

agree with this.
i'd like to fine a way to get matt luke on our staff....i like that guy a lot..... not sure how good of a head coach he really is, but if he was going to be successful at Ole Miss, it would take more time than he was given, for sure.

 

[jakez4ut]

FUN FACT FOR THE DAY:

Screen actor Logan Marshal-Green is a Tennessee Vol. He did his undergrad at UT while writing for the Daily Beacon and then moving on to NYU for grad school. You may know him best from his role as the jerk in Prometheus.
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If you are a cinephile I suggest watching him in the lead roles of the creepy film The Invitation and sci fi thriller Upgrade where he is implanted with body controlling AI.

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He named his recent first born son Tennessee.

maybe he'll be our celebrity guest picker on college game day......................................one day................................lol.

 

[UTSuave’]

My Arkansas friend said Chad Morris supposedly had a huge graphic of he and Deshaun Watson in Clemson gear up in the entrance to the Arky football complex. He didnt move his family to Fayetteville. There was 0 buy in from players because it appeared their HC had one foot out the door from day 1.

I wouldn’t have let his a$$ walk through the door.

 

[Glitch]

Sounds like kiffin.

Yep. I have no love for Kiffin, but I think he would not make that mistake again.

 

[UTSuave’]

Sounds like kiffin.

Not even close.He Atleast named his son Knox.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

My hatred for "Last Christmas" has ebbed dramatically now that I associate the song with Emilia Clarke. I've seen enough previews for that movie that whenever I hear it, I think of her. And that's very much not a bad thing.

I literally have no idea what movie that is, but she is not difficult to behold

 

[Glitch]

I think he was just letting his son finish high school in TX. He's a 4* QB and had just won a state championship at his high school in TX when his dad was hired at Arkansas. He probably didnt want to transfer schools.

I believe that was the case, but apparently it didn't sit well with the grey headed booster clan.

 

[nicksjuzunk]

If you enjoy solid guitar rock style music, Gary Hoey and Neil Zaza have several excellent Christmas albums

 

[Weezer]

I literally have no idea what movie that is, but she is not difficult to behold

Not even sure if it's out yet, but the title is "Last Christmas", and every time I see a preview, the song plays. I've become Pavlov's dog. Every time I hear the song now, I picture her.

 

[Glitch]

If you enjoy solid guitar rock style music, Gary Hoey and Neil Zaza have several excellent Christmas albums

"Music is for the simple minded."

- Newt (prolly)