The Impeachment Thread

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Mick said:
Well your beliefs are based on nothing. You are being stared right in the face with this one. I'm good with impeaching, removing from office, then charged in Federal Court with a televised trial. Yes I would be great with doing whats right, NOW. If you're not for doing whats right, then you're for nothing

Did you ask yourself, if you would be good with the precedence being set with the Benghazi investigations. You probably didn't care after the first few though, just accepted it. Didn't stop you from complaining about investigating Trump. I don't care if the Republicans get butt hurt because one of their many corrupt members gets exposed.

The Republicans are already butt hurt. They've had their head up there for 3 years now.
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If the outcome is removal followed by a Federal Trial, I will retract everything I've said about this event being political theater.
 
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luthervol said:
Well then why wasn't Ford or Carter impeached after Nixon? How did we make it through 2 terms of Bush following Clinton without him being impeached?

I don't buy it. Impeachment should be reserved for when it is justifiable. Trump is completely 100% justifiable.
Maybe the lesson which should be learned is not to nominate and then elect the most horrendously despicable candidate in history.
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We are in a different era.
There has not even been a trial, yet he is already guilty in minds of partisans such as yourself. That is why.
 
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Girth Brooks said:
Attitudes like this are why IWGAS if a nuclear winter was unleashed on Capitol Hill the next time a (D) holds the office. Burn every bit of it down, and I will laugh at schmucks like you for not realizing the precedent you’ve set, all while you’re crying like a ***** about how it’s not fair!

Just wait. It will come.
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Sounds like your ready to burn it down rather than accept how stupid you are. I will be in your way to stop the march of the deplorables.
 
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0nelilreb said:
I like how you slid in bribe . There’s no catch if you can’t prove he did it for personal gain . This is the whole problem ... one side says yes , one side says no . That’s how it will end up after the senate is done with their part .
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Do you believe it was done for his own personal gain? I'm just curious what you personally believe.
Pick one:
A. It absolutely wasn't done for personal gain.
B. There's a small chance it was done for personal gain.
C. I'm about 50 / 50.
D. It was most likely done for personal gain.
E. I'm all but positive it was done for personal gain.
F. It absolutely was done for personal gain.
 
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0nelilreb said:
I agree so how did Barry get elected twice ?#DreamersAct . See it’s all about perception , he literally said in public in front of cameras that “ I can’t do this “ , and then did it anyway . That’s knowing you shouldn’t by law , but believing you can get away with it when you do it . You don’t think they all do it to a degree then screech at others for doing something ?
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You really think DACA was worth almost 130 electoral votes?
 
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McDad said:
If the outcome is removal followed by a Federal Trial, I will retract everything I've said about this event being political theater.
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I think Trumps conduct has warranted removal. It would send a clear message to any president in the future to follow it up with Federal Charges.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
You really think DACA was worth almost 130 electoral votes?
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I think he did something that he knew was not in his power to do , but did it anyway because he had the media and public opinion on his side . Again they all ( in my opinion ) do things that is probably questionable to get what they want . Perception is the only difference .
 
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Mick said:
Sounds like your ready to burn it down rather than accept how stupid you are. I will be in your way to stop the march of the deplorables.
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You’ll be in my way? Oh ****, I may ought to pack a lunch....

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By the way, the precedent that will be upheld won’t be bolstered by me, it will be partisans across the aisle from you. When they nail your bag to a post and push you off, don’t cry foul. Reid set a precedent to get his way when he wanted it. How has that paid off for you idiots since?
 
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0nelilreb said:
I think he did something that he knew was not in his power to do , but did it anyway because he had the media and public opinion on his side . Again they all ( in my opinion ) do things that is probably questionable to get what they want . Perception is the only difference .
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But there's a Constitutional remedy for that, right? If a president orders a dubious order, people can sue to have it blocked.
 
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Girth Brooks said:
By the way, the precedent that will be upheld won’t be bolstered by me, it will be partisans across the aisle from you. When they nail your bag to a post and push you off, don’t cry foul. Reid set a precedent to get his way when he wanted it. How has that paid off for you idiots since?
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I said the exact same thing, but some don't believe it.

Orangeburst said:
I am rather surprised with this statement. Whether you agree or not on this impeachment, that is exactly how it is and will be on a more rigid scale in the future. It is just like the nuke option that Reid unleashed and has since been used by Repubs.
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Orangeburst said:
We are in a different era.
There has not even been a trial, yet he is already guilty in minds of partisans such as yourself. That is why.
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And he is already innocent regardless of what comes out during a trial in the minds of partisans such as yourself.
Look at how many said "no obstruction" after the Mueller report proved multiple acts of obstruction.
 
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luthervol said:
Do you believe it was done for his own personal gain? I'm just curious what you personally believe.
Pick one:
A. It absolutely wasn't done for personal gain.
B. There's a small chance it was done for personal gain.
C. I'm about 50 / 50.
D. It was most likely done for personal gain.
E. I'm all but positive it was done for personal gain.
F. It absolutely was done for personal gain.
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I go back and forth between C-D , believing a politician either way is iffy at best , throw in the fact that the people running the supposed fact finding inquiry are clowns that can’t stop showing the world what utter partisan hacks they are keeps drawing me back to the 50-50 . In my opinion your biggest mistake was letting a less than credible Schiff run one shoe then turn it over to a less than credible Nadler to call clearly partisan witness that are to dumb to shut up , not lie under oath and not tell the world you are little more than a progressive activist that hates Trump so badly you can’t walk on the same side of the street as a building he owns. None of this lends even the slightest hint of fairness , or a non partisan side show put on for the cameras to garner votes . This is why I have zero respect for any of them and I don’t give a damn about any continuum scale either . Lol
 
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Girth Brooks said:
You’ll be in my way? Oh ****, I may ought to pack a lunch....

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By the way, the precedent that will be upheld won’t be bolstered by me, it will be partisans across the aisle from you. When they nail your bag to a post and push you off, don’t cry foul. Reid set a precedent to get his way when he wanted it. How has that paid off for you idiots since?
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With a name like Girth Brooks, you have to be full of yourself.
 
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Velo Vol said:
But there's a Constitutional remedy for that, right? If a president orders a dubious order, people can sue to have it blocked.
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The constitutional remedy for that is ... you can’t do it , it’s not in your power to do , only congress can set immigration laws .
Do you remember what happened when Trump tried to let it run out ? The looniest thing I’ve ever seen , he was going to let an EO run out that was illegal to start with and the left tried to sue him to make him keep it open .
 
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luthervol said:
And he is already innocent regardless of what comes out during a trial in the minds of partisans such as yourself.
Look at how many said "no obstruction" after the Mueller report proved multiple acts of obstruction.
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Exactly. You made my point and how it will be further exasperated in the future.
 
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0nelilreb said:
Are you going to be good if it has the opposite effect and the next time a dem holds office and the Rs hold the house , the Rs spend 4 years trying to impeach them on anything they can find ?
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This also ignores the issue of political incentives.

We were told, especially at the start, that this was Trump's "impeachment trap"--that it would result in a Democratic dumpster fire, Trump's landslide reelection, yada yada yada.

His supporters must not believe their own spin if they're now talking about how damaging this will be to our future.

If a party strengthens its political hand via impeachment, we'll likely see it again in the future. If it flops, we probably won't. It's kind of self-regulating in that sense.
 
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