Our QB room will be the best in the SEC

At this point, JG understands and manages the run game better than BM. UT had a lead. The run game was producing. There was no good reason to go to BM at that point. Pruitt likes "known" quantities. JG has been a practice warrior. He has far more experience. He understands the college game more. He has a better grasp of the O. I like Maurer but he's a Fr... and Pruitt's job is to build a winning program, not to justify himself to anyone's momma.

The UK game was a different scenario. UK had gotten a lead and was dictating the pace of the game. Maurer was not playing well. He wasn't making good decisions and unlike his previous outings he looked tentative... hesitant.

I have been critical of JG. Unlike a lot of his former critics, it will take more than 2 or 3 games to convince me he's completely turned the corner. But USCe, UK, and MU at least gave me "hope" again that he could become a good QB. His Vandy performance... has increased my doubt again.

I have generally defended BM. One reason is that I liked his aggressive style. That's why his UK performance makes me pause. He's a Fr. If he doesn't lose his confidence and is coached up, I think his ceiling is higher than JG's. But JG has a head start and has experience that is meaningful.
100% agree with the fact that JG experience in the run game is huge. As far as those games. Im still not convinced he is a good QB. He misses way to many throws. Once his veteran WRs graduate i think his lack of accuracy will show up more...those WR were catching almost everything they could touch, so much so when JJ first had his few drops people were shocked.
 
I just showed back up in the FF because I'm ready to retire from the PF due to all the polarity, arguing and personal attacks.

lol

Nevermind.
 
Respectfully disagree - JG would draw some attention, same for JS. BM has much greater upside...I keep hearing that BUTCH JONES is telling friends that he will land HC job at either TULANE or CINCY and that he expects JG to be his QB.
Sounds like that's a case of Butch Jones being delusional. Why would JG want to go back to Butch when he can play in Jim Chaney's system?
 
I can see you don't care what people think who rank prospects for a living. That's your prerogative. It supports my position. It does not support yours. It seems your position is based primarily on what you read on Tennessee message boards. Crompton and Clausen were every bit as hyped as Bailey, and ranked higher by the experts. There is little or nothing to support your assertion that he is the most highly touted QB prospect to commit to UT since Peyton. It really doesn't matter, though. I'm glad he's committed to the Vols. I just don't like seeing unrealistic expectations heaped on a kid coming out of high school. It hurt Crompton. It hurt JG.
Crompton was terrible is what hurt him.
 
Respectfully disagree - JG would draw some attention, same for JS. BM has much greater upside...I keep hearing that BUTCH JONES is telling friends that he will land HC job at either TULANE or CINCY and that he expects JG to be his QB.
Maybe your friends should start listening to JG instead of hanging out with people who hang out with gym coach Jones. Once again, coaches are not allowed to show interest in a player at another school, it's a big infraction that coaches generally avoid.
 
I believe he wanted just that. To redshirt him.
But JG was playing REALLY REALLY bad and he was forces to play him.

JG turned the ball over and consistently put the defense in bad positions both games.
Maurer was ready for GaState, which would have gotten him prepared enough for BYU, which he then would have really shined against Chatt and then came into the Florida game more settled....MAYBE. We'll never know.

JG overcomplicates football. He's too into his head. When he trust his progessions and just plays...he's an awesome QB! He tore Mizzou 8th ranked defense apart...AFTER Maurer came in for a play. It's all psychological for him.

Now you have Bailey who is highly touted and talented QB. Maurer had glimpses of brilliance with a lot of gut wrenching plays you see from a freshman. But he can run too.

Maurer will improve. Bailey is going to put a lot of pressure on that position.

I don't know what's going to happen.

JG did play well vs Mizzou - but, to be fair, Tigers were without there 2 best Dbs most of the night...Dismal kicking game kept the score closer than it should have been.
 
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If Bailey actually comes to UT-I don't see him starting his Fresh year. Peyton wouldn't have played his Fresh year had it not been for injuries (or at least as soon as he did), the transition from HS (even a tough football HS) to SEC play isn't a baby step. I don't believe we'll have all these guys, some will either transfer, or not come at all. I know JG doesn't care one bit if he starts or not (so he says) but the other guys, at the competitive type, don't want to be warming the bench. IMHO, we don't need QB's that don't care-I want the starting QB to care and care a lot, his desire to excel and win can carry a team, his I don't care can harm a team...
So now the neverJG take is that Guarantano doesn't even care if he plays or not, WoW!! Good one!
 
Maybe your friends should start listening to JG instead of hanging out with people who hang out with gym coach Jones. Once again, coaches are not allowed to show interest in a player at another school, it's a big infraction that coaches generally avoid.

Jones and Guarantano family are joined at the hip - NCAA rules be DAMNED. Would be difficult for JG to turn down Uncle Butch.
 
Both BM and JG in 3 games vs ranked opponents

JG. 18/38 176 yards 0 tds 2 ints and 4.6 ypa

BM 23/36 365 yards 2 tds 3 ints 7.9 ypa

Same 3 teams. And BM was more effective.
How many games did the Vols win this year where you said to yourself "That was a good win, Maurer played well and we likely would not have won had it not been for his play"?
 
100% agree with the fact that JG experience in the run game is huge. As far as those games. Im still not convinced he is a good QB. He misses way to many throws. Once his veteran WRs graduate i think his lack of accuracy will show up more...those WR were catching almost everything they could touch, so much so when JJ first had his few drops people were shocked.
I have never had a problem with his accuracy. It is his decision making and timing that have been really bad. He throws a beautiful ball and is usually on target. He wasn't vs Vandy at all and showed some hesitation again IMO.

Good receivers bail every QB out. If UT has a drop off at WR then I don't think it hurts him more than the others.

However, I halfway expect that group to actually improve. The development going on in the background is what makes good programs good. Disappointed that Means is in the portal. I was hopeful he would be a big part of the next generation of UT receivers.
 
I pray he goes with butch jones. I have been looking at his completions and about 40% of his completeions go for 4 yards or less...that plus i found the top 250 QBs all time in air yards avg( distance ball in the air beyond the los) the list syop at 7 yards. Amd JG wasnt on thr list. That screams check down king
 
How many games did the Vols win this year where you said to yourself "That was a good win, Maurer played well and we likely would not have won had it not been for his play"?
If that’s best response you can think of to debate those stats then it’s probably best to take K-towns approach and not to respond at all. You’ve already lost.
 

Why did you arbitrarily choose week 7?

Also, in just about every way you want to parse it, JG is among the worst in time to throw. That's not a problem vs lesser competition. It could present a huge problem against better teams.

Also during the same period JG is 11th in completion % behind even Shrout. He's 6th in yardage. He's 7th in depth adjusted accuracy. He's 11th in uncatchable %. He's the league's worst in time to throw and the only SEC QB that averages over 3 seconds to deliver the ball.

He's improved... not out of the woods.
 
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Why did you arbitrarily choose week 7?
In his defense that was after the bama game when it started seeming to click for JG.
Also during the same period JG is 11th in completion %
Thank you. I was about to ask about completition %. Not a bad stat by itself but I wouldn't call it too meaningful without completion percentage to weigh it.
 
If that’s best response you can think of to debate those stats then it’s probably best to take K-towns approach and not to respond at all. You’ve already lost.
What is the answer? You know it's ZERO. BM should have done a RS this year as his play didn't add anything to this program in terms of wins. He should have done a RS because he was not ready physically or mentally and certainly wasn't ready when it comes to knowing the playbook. He was forced into playing by shoddy play early on from JG and I believe him playing before he was ready has hampered his development much more so than had Pruitt been able to RS him. As it sits now he's about to be in a stiff QB competition vs a RS SR with 3 years starting experience and a hotshot new Blue Chip recruit. His performances this year, while shining some has not helped him one bit going into the upcoming competition. Even you have said you don't count mop up duty stats, why do JGs count but BMs don't in this situation. JG gets credit with his losses to Alabama and GA, why doesn't BM?
 
Why did you arbitrarily choose week 7?

Also, in just about every way you want to parse it, JG is among the worst in time to throw. That's not a problem vs lesser competition. It could present a huge problem against better teams.

Also during the same period JG is 11th in completion % behind even Shrout. He's 6th in yardage. He's 7th in depth adjusted accuracy. He's 11th in uncatchable %. He's the league's worst in time to throw and the only SEC QB that averages over 3 seconds to deliver the ball.

He's improved... not out of the woods.
I didn't choose week7, just went with what this guy posted. I guess you don't think that 3rd down success rates mean much. I'm guessing the full season totals are similar.
 
Why did you arbitrarily choose week 7?

Also, in just about every way you want to parse it, JG is among the worst in time to throw. That's not a problem vs lesser competition. It could present a huge problem against better teams.

Also during the same period JG is 11th in completion % behind even Shrout. He's 6th in yardage. He's 7th in depth adjusted accuracy. He's 11th in uncatchable %. He's the league's worst in time to throw and the only SEC QB that averages over 3 seconds to deliver the ball.

He's improved... not out of the woods.
Ben Roethlisberger holds onto the ball a long time, what's the difference?
 
What is the answer? You know it's ZERO. BM should have done a RS this year as his play didn't add anything to this program in terms of wins. He should have done a RS because he was not ready physically or mentally and certainly wasn't ready when it comes to knowing the playbook. He was forced into playing by shoddy play early on from JG and I believe him playing before he was ready has hampered his development much more so than had Pruitt been able to RS him. As it sits now he's about to be in a stiff QB competition vs a RS SR with 3 years starting experience and a hotshot new Blue Chip recruit. His performances this year, while shining some has not helped him one bit going into the upcoming competition. Even you have said you don't count mop up duty stats, why do JGs count but BMs don't in this situation. JG gets credit with his losses to Alabama and GA, why doesn't BM?
I never blamed JG for anything. He was benched due to bad play. That’s true, but i personally never attack JG, his stats or otherwise. In fact you would be shocked to learn that I actually support JG. It’s the false narrative’s that your clan puts out to downgrade BM that I have a problem with. That’s what you don’t understand. Now as for BM not contributing...... I woefully disagree. This team was flat and just going through the motions in losing efforts every week until Maurer came along. He injected life into this team and whether you like it or not that life he injected remained even through the weeks he didn’t play. And by that account he played a much bigger role than you’re willing to give him credit for.
 
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