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Aesius said:
Haney article rings true more and more every day. I hated it at the time, and it was a bad idea to publish it while Butch was still coaching, but I can't say any of it was wrong. He's a deeply insecure guy and it showed in the way he coached the team once he started to achieve success and had to deal with increased expectations.

He seemed perfectly content with Tennessee going 8-4 and getting one decent win + a lower-tier bowl win every year and was shocked that the fans didn't appreciate that after year 4.
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Many fans here prefer propaganda to truth and still think Haney shouldn’t have written the article despite being right and trying to warn us of the problem. Smh.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Sure, I get that. I’m saying “we” meaning nationally, not just UT.

Paying someone for 5 years after you fired them is ridiculous
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Your AD doesn’t nail down a hire because “certain terms weren’t agreed upon”? Wanna try to sell kerosene at that house?
 
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butchna said:
Don’t belong to either, so I don’t know which one I’m getting herded into.
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To me there can be 2 sides AND those that have their own independent view, no different than say politics. Folks that don't belong to either party doesn't mean there aren't 2 competing sides being discussed.
Not sure what I said that made you feel otherwise or herded but it wasn't my intent.
 
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chargervol said:
To me there can be 2 sides AND those that have their own independent view, no different than say politics. Folks that don't belong to either party doesn't mean there aren't main sides competing sides being discussed.
Not sure what I said that made you feel otherwise or herded but it wasn't my intent.
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There was an “either/or” interpretation on my part. Carry on...that’s not an order.
 
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So...any real shot with Desmond Tisdol or he just trying grab some follows?

Offered the 22nd, unofficial against UAB and has tweeted us up...
 
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SLICKYINC said:
Think so but some have suggested he has grade issues. Dunno….
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To be fair if he's playing all 3 sports at the high level he is, that doesn't surprise me very much at all. I could see him being a great compliment to Henry T though similar style of player it appears.
 
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chargervol said:
I've literally been fighting and appealing my company to let me return to work. I'm getting paid and I have to accept it for my family but have been battling depression because I can't overcome the feeling of "not being the man I was brought up to be".

My wife and kids are of course supportive and telling me it's not my fault but I feel nothing but embarrassment. I will run back to work if I win my appeal.
Don't tell me what I would do, none of you have that right or know me like that.
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Come on up to NJ bud. Would love to have you on board.
 
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butchna said:
About what? Haney made up a source. May have guessed right about some things. And what else have I been wrong about? I know...bet you don’t. 😎
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Smartest “made up source” I’ve ever heard about. He should “guess” some lottery numbers next based on his track record.
 
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chargervol said:
I've literally been fighting and appealing my company to let me return to work. I'm getting paid and I have to accept it for my family but have been battling depression because I can't overcome the feeling of "not being the man I was brought up to be".

My wife and kids are of course supportive and telling me it's not my fault but I feel nothing but embarrassment. I will run back to work if I win my appeal.
Don't tell me what I would do, none of you have that right or know me like that.
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I think the circumstances you have are a little different than what I think was being discussed, if I sign a contract that said if I was fired I had a stated buy-out (say my salary per year for 3 years) I could live with that doesn't mean I wouldn't get another job (unless it screwed up my buyout) and if that were the case I would just take the free money and work under the table doing odds and ends jobs or taking care of my farm, but anyways praying that you get what you're hoping for @chargervol because depression sucks (been there).
 
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HankHill said:
Come on up to NJ bud. Would love to have you on board.
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Most frustrating part, while I really want to return to where I was, I have applied elsewhere.
Always goes great until you're honest in an interview. They can write all the laws they wish but you can't prove concern over your condition is a factor.

Guess it's just coincidence that I never had this problem before I became sick. Otoh, guess I can't blame them. I can't even guarantee being there as needed to myself...much less to them.
 
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BucVol98 said:
I think the circumstances you have are a little different than what I think was being discussed, if I sign a contract that said if I was fired I had a stated buy-out (say my salary per year for 3 years) I could live with that doesn't mean I wouldn't get another job (unless it screwed up my buyout) and if that were the case I would just take the free money and work under the table doing odds and ends jobs or taking care of my farm, but anyways praying that you get what you're hoping for @chargervol because depression sucks (been there).
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I relate because it was part of my benefits package. I even paid some of the insurance. It was part of the deal to get me there and it's "mine" by all definitions but I just have zero sense of pride in cashing a check when I'm not producing work for them. More so, shame. Hate when it's even mentioned in front of my kids, it's insufferable.
 
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VolGee4 said:
While no one can really say how much interest he’s gotten, I would venture to guess that Butch would jump at a multi year offer at a decent P5 school. That would allow him to make more money and rehabilitate his image if he can make it work. No one knows what kind of interest he has really gotten, and I can’t recall how old his youngest son is. That can make a difference as well.

If Harbaugh left and Michigan came calling today, he would almost certainly take it. But we all know he hasn’t gotten that interest, and that is why he is milking UT.
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Rutgers rebuild too big for him. He should go coach in MAC.
 
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chargervol said:
I've literally been fighting and appealing my company to let me return to work. I'm getting paid and I have to accept it for my family but have been battling depression because I can't overcome the feeling of "not being the man I was brought up to be".

My wife and kids are of course supportive and telling me it's not my fault but I feel nothing but embarrassment. I will run back to work if I win my appeal.
Don't tell me what I would do, none of you have that right or know me like that.
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Been there brother except I was out of work and no pay. Got a years severance pkg and put the money in the market to survive. My happiness wore off after a year and I went into a state of depression. I know how that feels.
So I do understand.
 
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chargervol said:
I relate because it was part of my benefits package. I even paid some of the insurance. It was part of the deal to get me there and it's "mine" by all definitions but I just have zero sense of pride in cashing a check when I'm not producing work for them. More so, shame. Hate when it's even mentioned in front of my kids, it's insufferable.
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It's called self worth brother. I know what you mean. Try to concentrate on the good things brother while you have them.
I give thanks to God everyday for my health and the ability to provide food on the table. Some people don't have health like I do. Especially at my age. Try to stay focused on the good things you have been given. Keep pressing and I'm sure things will work out for you.
 
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