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#128
PulaskiVolFan said:
It is set up solely to keep competitive advantage out of amateur sports. It's set up to protect the student athlete from blood thirsty scum agents. It's set up so boosters can't give their school an advantage over another school simply because of money. And the scholar student doesn't get any monetary benefit on their intellectual property they come up within the University, the University gets all profits. I have no problem with either student only allowed scholarship money and living expenses the 4 or 5 years while they are being trained by the University to be successful later on in life. They can always collect when they leave school. I also don't have a problem with them paying their own way through school if they are collecting disposable income on their likeness.
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While this may have worked at one point in time, this system is clearly broken. Boosters and agents are actively involved at every big-time school and are a primary reason we are see the same schools at the top every year in college athletics. I would argue this is an opportunity to setup an established list of reputable agents, and to weed out some of the corruption currently abusing the system.

Also, while a student doesn’t gain money based on research paid for by the university (same way a student athlete won’t earn during the game), a law student for instance can earn money for outside work they do. An art student for instance can gain money by selling artwork not sponsored by the university. This is similar to what an athlete would be able to do.
 
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#132
Roustabout said:
The concern is for trying to keep the college game the college game. We have pro sports and while college isn’t as “pure” as we’d all like, this just pollutes it more. No one is forced to sign a scholarship or play under the rules of amateurism.

As an alumni and a parent of a current student I think I have every damn write to protest any f’n thing I think undermines amateur athletics.
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I am also an alumnus, don't really understand how that gives me or you a more valid argument than anyone else. I never said you can't protest it. I just called the bluff that people will stop watching it because of this rule. Empty threat, in my opinion.

As you mentioned, the game isn't pure to begin with, all this will do is bring a lot of the under the table deals above the table. You are grossly exaggerating the effect this would have, whether or not Admiral got an ad deal with a local company or made some money for autographs would not be a game changer. Most lesser known / 3* players won't be affected by this at all, the big name players will be, but that is already the case.

I would agree that no one is forced to sign a scholarship, but the NBA basically forces it since you can't be drafted right out of high school. The aren't many realistic options available outside of collegiate sports.
 
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#135
golfballs said:
If the association determines its in their best interest. This isn’t a matter of capitalism
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So let’s get rid of the NCAA (a corrupt and inept organization), treat major college sports like they really are (a minor league system) and let these athletes make money off their name and image, just like EVERY AMERICAN IN THIS COUNTRY CAN AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO.
 
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#137
golfballs said:
If the association determines its in their best interest. This isn’t a matter of capitalism
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Well then that begs the obvious question of what does an “association” know about what is or is not in the best interest of each individual student athlete? To me, it’s a scary thought thinking that a large board of wealtht men and women seem to get to be the arbitor of what is in the best interest of the individual rather than the individual themselves.
 
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#138
It’s really, really odd how many of you think the NCAA is corrupt and inept and horrible, yet continue to defend them making billions from athletes. It’s so odd
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Well then that begs the obvious question of what does an “association” know about what is or is not in the best interest of each individual student athlete? To me, it’s a scary thought thinking that a large board of wealtht men and women seem to get to be the arbitor of what is in the best interest of the individual rather than the individual themselves.
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Not too mention how many of these same people thing the NCAA is a joke and corrupt anyways.
 
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zjcvols said:
So let’s get rid of the NCAA, a corrupt an inept organization, treat major college sports like they really are (a minor league system) and let these athletes making money off their name and image, just like EVERY AMERICAN IN THIS COUNTRY CAN AND SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO.
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I think there should be true minor leagues. I just don’t think they belong on college campuses
 
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#141
zjcvols said:
Not too mention how many of these same people thing the NCAA is a joke and corrupt anyways.
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If the college game was the same as it was in the 1980’s to 1990’s then maybe I’d tend to agree with more of them, but the fact of the matter is the game has grown far beyond what it used to be. This isn’t a game anymore it’s a multi-billion dollar industry that the rich are getting richer off of and yet we continue to blindly support the NCAA because people believe the life lessons and experience these kids get should be good enough.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Well then that begs the obvious question of what does an “association” know about what is or is not in the best interest of each individual student athlete? To me, it’s a scary thought thinking that a large board of wealtht men and women seem to get to be the arbitor of what is in the best interest of the individual rather than the individual themselves.
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The schools are members of the association. So it’s the schools collectively determining this. If you don’t feel like the school is doing a good job representing their athletes then don’t go to that school.
 
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#143
golfballs said:
I think there should be true minor leagues. I just don’t think they belong on college campuses
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That’s fine. That’s an entirely different argument. As long as you’re fine as the university runs basically rec programs then. Will you support and watch rec programs from a bunch of failed high school athletes? Nobody would.

Edit: and those kids should be able to make money off their likeness too.
 
#144
#144
zjcvols said:
That’s fine. That’s an entirely different argument. As long as you’re fine as the university runs basically rec programs then.
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It’s really funny to listen to people make the argument that allowing college athletes to profit from their likeness will destroy college athletics, but also argue we should just create an entirely new minor league system that is not affiliated with any college. It seems to me like THAT would ACTUALLY destroy college athletics.
 
#145
#145
TheMookieMonster said:
If the college game was the same as it was in the 1980’s to 1990’s then maybe I’d tend to agree with more of them, but the fact of the matter is the game has grown far beyond what it used to be. This isn’t a game anymore it’s a multi-billion dollar industry that the rich are getting richer off of and yet we continue to blindly support the NCAA because people believe the life lessons and experience these kids get should be good enough.
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I don’t.

If I’m 19 years and let’s say I’m a famous singer, go to UTK and study biology...I can still make money off my name and image as much as I want. That’s a right this country gives out, which is awesome! The fact that these players have been stripped of that right because of a corrupt organization is wrong and in my mind, illegal. Anyone in this country should be able to make money off their name and likeness.
 
#146
#146
I love how people try to make a “capitalism” argument.......and don’t really understand capitalism.

If an athlete could go pro right out of high school (if they wanted) everything would be solved. Then any athlete (who wanted to) could start “making money off of their likeness” or simply start making money from their sport. Also college athletes (those who chose this route) would still be amateurs.
 
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#147
#147
JoAllan said:
I love how people try to make a “capitalism” argument.......and don’t really understand capitalism.

If an athlete could go pro right out of high school (if they wanted) everything would be solved. Then any athlete (who wanted to) could start “making money off of their likeness” or simply start making money from their sport. Also college athletes (those who chose this route) would still be amateurs.
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You’re absolutely right! I agree that 18 year olds should be allowed to play professional sports and think it’s wrong what the NFL and NBA do.
 
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#148
zjcvols said:
You’re absolutely right! I agree that 18 year olds should be allowed to play professional sports and think it’s wrong what the NFL and NBA do.
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It’s particularly interesting to me that we arbitrarily decide that baseball players are mature enough to be able to go pro right out of high school and start profiting on their talent but we rescind a rule allowing the same treatment for basketball players.

I mean it’s obvious why. College baseball doesn’t turn much of a profit but college basketball does. So let’s keep that talent on campus as long as we can and soak as much money while we can, right? Yep, not corrupt at all.
 
#149
#149
zjcvols said:
You’re absolutely right! I agree that 18 year olds should be allowed to play professional sports and think it’s wrong what the NFL and NBA do.
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Wonder why there is not a market for professional sports before the NBA or NFL accepts them? If the 5 stars would rather be paid than play as amateurs and people would watch, you would think such leagues would be popping up...
 
#150
#150
vols4sure said:
Wonder why there is not a market for professional sports before the NBA or NFL accepts them? If the 5 stars would rather be paid than play as amateurs and people would watch, you would think such leagues would be popping up...
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Because the NFL has a free minor league system. Why would they want that to change? And the NBA is actually trying to turn the G-League into that. The NBA allows players the one and done option, so that’s another reason.
 
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