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There are other options for high school basketball players than going to college. If they feel like they’re being victimized by going to college then they’re doing it at their own volition
 
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golfballs said:
How do you all feel about universities owning the intellectual property of work developed by students? Universities provide the resources to carry out the work and retain the rights. Some of which can be massively lucrative
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It's definitely a tricky subject, kinda like which came first, the chicken or the egg. I was once hired for a position that had never existed before, the company sales skyrocketed with the new position and new direction. I always fought for more money because I thought I was the major reason for the increase in sales. Reality was that company was there before me and still there now, lots of folks helped make those huge profits for the owners and the owners decided to keep most of the money.
 
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VEKZY said:
I just don't understand why people want to complain about others being able to make money off of themselves. It literally has no effect on their lives, yet they want to complain as if it is a personal attack against them.
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The concern is for trying to keep the college game the college game. We have pro sports and while college isn’t as “pure” as we’d all like, this just pollutes it more. No one is forced to sign a scholarship or play under the rules of amateurism.

As an alumni and a parent of a current student I think I have every damn write to protest any f’n thing I think undermines amateur athletics.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
It's pretty simple, most of these bitter old men wish that they had the talent to compete and make money for playing a sport, and because they do not, they will spend an eternity griping about how much money these athletes make.
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That's just not true. For many it's because they see value in a game played by amateur athletes as opposed to professional players. What does playing the game have anything to do with watching and enjoying the sport?
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
That's just not true. For many it's because they see value in a game played by amateur athletes as opposed to professional players. What does playing the game have anything to do with watching and enjoying the sport?
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It's hard to defend college athletics as an "amateur sport" when a good portion of the time the ticket prices to attend these events are as expensive if not more expensive then a professional game. The sport has grown larger than most probably could have ever predicted. You have to evolve when things change rather than stay mired in the past.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
It's hard to defend college athletics as an "amateur sport" when a good portion of the time the ticket prices to attend these events are as expensive if not more expensive then a professional game. The sport has grown larger than most probably could have ever predicted. You have to evolve when things change rather than stay mired in the past.
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You probably should look up the definition of amateur athlete. Ticket prices and money made off events has nothing to do with maintaining your amateur status. Problem with you young bucks is that you don't have any respect for the history of sports or the value one can gain from playing a sport for 0 monetary gains.
 
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#109
it will turn into an uncontrollable monster that will be misused and abused and keep the NCAA busy until it folds...

GO BIG ORANGE...BEAT UAB!
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
You probably should look up the definition of amateur athlete. Ticket prices and money made off events has nothing to do with maintaining your amateur status. Problem with you young bucks is that you don't have any respect for the history of sports or the value one can gain from playing a sport for 0 monetary gains.
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That's just ridiculous. What does the history of sports have to do with this discussion? The two also aren't mutually exclusive, you can learn valuable life lessons from sports and also be compensated for your efforts at the same time. It doesn't have to be one or the other. Both can be true.
 
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How does it change from a fans perspective if a player makes money? I see this referenced time and again, “I root for UT instead of professional sports because they’re amateurs, and this would ruin it.” Reality is we’re fans of the university because of our affiliation with it, whether that be as students, graduates, locals, or because your pappy was a fan. Players making a little bit of coin off of their accomplishments won’t change that.
Its inarguable that players currently receive benefits, because clearly they do. However, the revenues generated in the primary sports and the market value of their image and likeness is undeniable. I believe this will have very little impact on the competitive nature of the game, and seems like a feasible compromise for all parties.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
That's just ridiculous. What does the history of sports have to do with this discussion? The two also aren't mutually exclusive, you can learn valuable life lessons from sports and also be compensated for your efforts at the same time. It doesn't have to be one or the other. Both can be true.
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It has to do with you not knowing the true definition of amateur and how enjoyable it was back in the day to be able to differentiate between amateur sports and professional sports. The NBA Dream team ended all of that when they played in the Olympics. Things are not always better because they are new young man.
 
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lilesrt said:
Does this new rule allow the come back of NCAA Football to the video gaming market? If so, that’s a huge plus. 👍
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Yes, they will have to put proceeds into a big NCAA pool and the players will negotiate for their fair share. Gonna be interesting to see all these lawyers and agents around college Athletics
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
It has to do with you not knowing the true definition of amateur and how enjoyable it was back in the day to be able to differentiate between amateur sports and professional sports. The NBA Dream team ended all of that when they played in the Olympics. Things are not always better because they are new young man.
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I get that you're trying to be condescending by referring to me as "young" but that doesn't solidify or complement your argument by implying that your age gives you additional wisdom.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
You're the poster on here fuming at the thought of a young 18-21 year old athlete possibly making money off their own image when it doesn't matter one bit to your livelihood.
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Weird. You have a distorted perception of fuming. I stated an opinion that under the current setup the SAs have a really good deal already as amateurs. You're the one being disrespectful, labeling posters as old, bitter, and dumb. You sound angry.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
I get that you're trying to be condescending by referring to me as "young" but that doesn't solidify or complement your argument by implying that your age gives you additional wisdom.
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It doesn't give me additional wisdom, but it does give me experience which is a value the younger generation doesn't respect either.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
It doesn't give me additional wisdom, but it does give me experience which is a value the younger generation doesn't respect either.
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I pose to you, respectfully, what your opinion on academic scholars who are receiving an education on a full-ride academic scholarship who still maintain rights to their own intellectual property. I would sincerely love to know why certain students should be allowed to maintain their own ability to bring in additional income off their talents, while others (i.e. athletes) are barred--particularly in a much more profitable industry than academics. Does that not seem wrong to you? Student athletes aren't the only one given scholarships to attend a university.
 
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VEKZY said:
Not mistreatment. Missed opportunity for profits. It literally has nothing to do with the school paying him. It is the fact he was not allowed by the NCAA to make money off of his own image. That is ridiculous and un-American in every way.
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I get your point and tend to agree, but wouldn’t you think that this could negatively affect college sports? A lot of these athletes are already super entitled coming to college, and now they can make money. It’s gonna turn into “all about me” when they show up to play. Also if affects recruiting. They won’t be choosing which school they really like the most, but the school where they have the best chance to make money. I just don’t think it’s a very good thing for college sports.
 
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This isn’t a generational debate. This also isn’t an either/or situation. I’m not sure why people are making it out to be either.

The fact of the matter is NCAA sports, specifically Basketball and Football, have turned into cash cows. This is a relatively recent development and is a trend that is likely to continue. This makes it hard to compare eras, and why many people feel the benefits currently provided are insufficient given the amount of money being generated. It seems reasonable that a person should be have earnings based on their value and accomplishments, in addition to the benefits currently received.

There are no doubt kinks to be worked out, however I can’t see how this is inherently bad or a notion that should be readily dismissed.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Weird. You have a distorted perception of fuming. I stated an opinion that under the current setup the SAs have a really good deal already as amateurs. You're the one being disrespectful, labeling posters as old, bitter, and dumb. You sound angry.
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Angry, no. Passionate, yes. I have friends and family who have been part of the NCAA. So it's a subject that I take seriously. Apologies if it comes off as rude, but I see very few valid reasons why in 2019 in a multi-billion dollar industry we should continue to bar student athletes from earning income on their talents. If this isn't a business, then let's donate all proceeds to charity rather than allow the NCAA and universities to rake in millions or billions of dollars every year.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
I pose to you, respectfully, what your opinion on academic scholars who are receiving an education on a full-ride academic scholarship who still maintain rights to their own intellectual property. I would sincerely love to know why certain students should be allowed to maintain their own ability to bring in additional income off their talents, while others (i.e. athletes) are barred--particularly in a much more profitable industry than academics. Does that not seem wrong to you? Student athletes aren't the only one given scholarships to attend a university.
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It is set up solely to keep competitive advantage out of amateur sports. It's set up to protect the student athlete from blood thirsty scum agents. It's set up so boosters can't give their school an advantage over another school simply because of money. And the scholar student doesn't get any monetary benefit on their intellectual property they come up within the University, the University gets all profits. I have no problem with either student only allowed scholarship money and living expenses the 4 or 5 years while they are being trained by the University to be successful later on in life. They can always collect when they leave school. I also don't have a problem with them paying their own way through school if they are collecting disposable income on their likeness.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
It is set up solely to keep competitive advantage out of amateur sports. It's set up to protect the student athlete from blood thirsty scum agents. It's set up so boosters can't give their school an advantage over another school simply because of money. And the scholar student doesn't get any monetary benefit on their intellectual property they come up within the University, the University gets all profits. I have no problem with either student only allowed scholarship money and living expenses the 4 or 5 years while they are being trained by the University to be successful later on in life. They can always collect when they leave school. I also don't have a problem with them paying their own way through school if they are collecting disposable income on their likeness.
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Yeah its set up that way but I don't think anyone believes the governing body follows the letter of the law without bias and $ in the back of their mind either. It has been sold as a noble idea.
 
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