Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

[butchna]

Sheriron Jones with a bruh moment.

UNM Lobos’ quarterback suspended from team following indecent exposure charge

Member when he singlehandedly “won the game” during the Battle of Bristol without even playing? Simply by showing his azz on the sideline?

 

[drvenner]

Brother-in-law is not immediate family and is that guy a student or just a fan of Alabama?

Does it matter?

 

[VolGee4]

We gotta start putting more alumni in media, SEC office, and referee positions.

We have alumni who have led teams to Super Bowl wins, come back from cancer and played, and a Fox analyst for the NFL. They don't need to worry about the day to day operations of a conference. Bama has the alumni that need to be involved in the college game.

 

[butchna]

Who would have thought that hiring a guy whose personal resume is better than our entire program history would turn out well.

I’m still kinda shocked we didn’t botch having an open basketball head coach position with Rick Barnes freshly unemployed.

Benefitted from the Longhorns “we deserve better cuz expectations!” mentality. When all we really wanted was someone to stop the bleeding.

 

[VolGee4]

Does it matter?

No, it does not. The sideline judge apparently lives or has lived in Birmingham and went to HS there. Anyone from Birmingham should not be officiating a Bama game. Just like anyone from Sevier County or Cookeville should not be doing a UT game.

It's just arrogance. There are competent people from many other states (and have no ties to the SEC or its schools) who can do this job.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

I don't understand. I swear there used to be a rule about officials doing games within a certain radius of their hometown. Someone said it's why Rocky Goode never did a UT game.

How in the heck does this happen?

Rocky went to and played for UT.

 

[you]

Volnation finally got its 3 amigos.

Curse of the three amigos is lifted, we can move on now

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I guess he just wanted to lay it out there.

Kind of a dick move if you ask me.

 

[OrangeBlood4life]

Ummmm at my job.. BIL is immediate family. We have to list all them every year.

 

[drvenner]

I don't understand. I swear there used to be a rule about officials doing games within a certain radius of their hometown. Someone said it's why Rocky Goode never did a UT game.

How in the heck does this happen?

I have no idea. I remember Terry Brown played for us in the 1980's and went on to be an SEC referee and was never allowed to call our games. We also have current SEC referee Rick Hedrick who is from Sevier County who has not called one of our games.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Maurer out for South Carolina game.

If they really sent him to Vanderbilt for additional tests he might be out much longer than that.

 

[Pane di mais]

I know Jauan played QB in HS. Honest question, does anyone really know if he can throw the ball accurately enough to score points? Not coming after you, just curious question. I feel like he would have at least 2 turnovers if forced to throw. I also feel like Shrout would have a few so wouldn't it make more sense to have JJ on the field catching the ball if you are going to get the same amount of turnovers potentially?

I looked at some of his HS film after seeing your question and he was running every play. But that does NOT answer your question.

 

[VolGee4]

Rocky went to and played for UT.

Gotcha. Thanks. That's understandable. But I thought I had seen they used to have a rule about not doing games within a certain radius of your hometown as well.

 

[UTSuave’]

Just 13 days from BasketVOLs tip-off too...

We've got some forward momentum in recruiting and the on the field product, hopefully we just show out at home against USC in a packed house. I truly believe despite his negatives JG starting isn't an automatic loss. He plays like he did against MSU and we'll be fine. Surely the staff has simplified the playbook to prevent anymore rogue audibles/play-calling

 

[Pane di mais]

The int was on Jennings and he had a very good shot at a TD catch nearly tipped for an INT

 

[BruinVol]

Its easy pac 12 officials should do SEC games

 

[Devo182]

Except for the practice film showing him taking reps from yesterday's practice's media opening...

Were they on airs? I'd say Pruitt is not talking simply air passes

 

[WriterVol]

We have websites that list, collate, and analyze every piece of sports data available. How has no one created one for referees? A ref's body of work is explicitly available for public consumption.

You'd need to analyze them in an obviously transparent way. Maybe have a small committee of people that aren't fans of the teams their watching. You could even start it up just doing major games or games that get a lot of complaints to get the ball rolling. If successful, you could grow it from there.

 

[Devo182]

He should have extended the 2nd angle shot. That one clearly shows the arm grab. That was bad.

 

[mrmax86]

I should put OD on ignore but I like hating him. You know?

I didn't even know we were pursuing a player by the name of Jay Hardy because OD started the thread and I had him on ignore. Had to unignore him to see the thread.

 

[butchna]

Am I the only one that thought Shrout looked good in his one unmolested drop back?

He puts 3 more yards of air under that ball and we're all talking like he’s the 2nd coming...

He can make all the throws and put something extra on em Unrealistic to expect him to be polished in his sparse game action. He was out on the field against an amped up Bama defense fresh off a defensive touchdown and we expect him to carve em up like a turkey. Needs some confidence and decisiveness but we don’t KNOW that’s he’s minus capability.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

 

[Devo182]

We have websites that list, collate, and analyze every piece of sports data available. How has no one created one for referees? A ref's body of work is explicitly available for public consumption.

You'd need to analyze them in an obviously transparent way. Maybe have a small committee of people that aren't fans of the teams their watching. You could even start it up just doing major games or games that get a lot of complaints to get the ball rolling. If successful, you could grow it from there.

Think you'd want a current ref or rules expert to head this.

Either way, there's no financial incentive for someone to pour over this. The public is also limited to TV shots. I believe programs have something David Ubben has referred to as "24-angle" shots of all games. It would also be hard to know which judge is calling each penalty. Obvious sometimes, but plenty of times we don't know.

I've read there is some auditing of referree work...but I have no insight as to who does it. Would like to see an auditing firm combine with rules experts to independently audit everything.

There should be a quasi-NCAA subbody - wherein the member universities must fund it - but can have zero input on the committee. That committee could audit and oversee all referreeing. They would have no power to fire and hire, but they would make all information public. Basically just a public independent oversight body.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

We have to hope that we can run it on them. If we can run the ball and just throw it down the field every now and then, we may be able to shorten the game and win an ugly one. Defense needs to play their best game as well.

Come on man, you know how this is going to go..Mushdump is going to stack the box, and make JG throw to win. We ain't running on that, and JG is not beating anybody. He is a black hole that sucks all hope out of everything.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Come on man, you know how this is going to go..Mushdump is going to stack the box, and make JG throw to win. We ain't running on that, and JG is not beating anybody. He is a black hole that sucks all hope out of everything.

Yes this is my fear