Recruiting Forum Football Talk II

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USCjr Game Visitors List

That is a lot of beefy goodness in two '20 names!

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

This was my impression from the eye test of watching both teams, but statistically, USC and MSU are very close on defense. USC is a little better, particularly against the pass, but neither is outstanding. I haven't looked at advanced analytics, but just on the raw numbers they are pretty comparable.

Edit: I take it back, just found the defensive efficiency rankings, SC is 12th at 79.4 and MSU is 59th at 54.7

Lol..I was reading that thinking "what in the wurl is ol Dudz thinking"

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I think he changed the play because he thought it would work. That still does not make it anything other than a horrendously bad decision.

Of course he thought it would work

 

[RikidyBones]

The Ubben bashing on here has really gotten out of hand. While he may post a snarky tweet from time to time or say something dickish on the podcast, that attitude does not come through in his articles. I've been a journalist and read a lot of sports writing. He's the best beat writer we have in terms of writing skills, understanding the game with nuance, and pitching interesting football/football-adjacent stories (like the barber shop story from last week). He puts Rucker to shame.

The stuff from me is hyperbole. He responds, which I actually respect. But I cant respect his bootleg cigarette business to elementary school kids. @David Ubben

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

But he didn't change the play, if he did there wasn't another soul on that offense that knew about it. I dont have a problem with him checking to another play but that doesn't seem to be what he did.

No he just ran it..nobody knew what he was doing but him.

 

[Cosmo Kramer]

I think Kris Richard will get a head job this year too

 

[Pane di mais]

Just ate at a place called Pruetts in Bama. It’s a shame these hillbillies don’t know how to spell the name of the best defensive coach Alabama’s ever had

Heard that is an awesome place. In Gadsden?

 

[Batman1948]

More than one...if he knows the Harry Hines area.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I had to clue what this meant. After a quick Google/YouTube, I lol'd. Thanks for making me feel old.

GDit Leeroy!

 

[RikidyBones]

I can fish in this town too.

Hey @JarrettGuarantano


YOU SUCK

 

[UTSuave’]

Correct. But since the 4th quarter of South Carolina game on into this year.. what has our offense Looked like with JG at QB?

No one knows, including our own coaches how shrout will look when he’s given the prep time as the starter. Maurer didn’t look very good when he was just coming in for spot situations. Shrout could come in and pull a Nathan peterman and be a disaster. Or he could come in and play well as Maurer did against Georgia.

I would rather go with the unknown then a know liability.

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

Of course teams need butts in the seats. That’s a given. They also prob want an awesome atmosphere.

I think any HC is gonna be upset with 3-9 or 4-8, as well as any fanbase. The coaches aren’t going to be upset with themselves bc fans don’t show up. They’re gonna be upset that they’re losing. Worrying about fans is most likely pretty far down the list in terms of things to worry about.

So yes, you lose a bunch — fans don’t come to games — you are in trouble.

But for coaches I’d say it’s more: you lose a bunch — you are in trouble.

They’re worried about losing their team, losing the support of the AD, how to get better, what schemes to run, who the next opponent is, etc etc. This doesn’t even include their personal lives. They most certainly are not worried about fans.

You ever play ball? Any kind of ball at a high(ish) level? Fans always think they know what’s going on, but inside that locker room and coach’s offices they’re thinking about a billion other things than what the fans want.

Never played football. I played soccer in college. Traveled the US from when I was 10-18 on a travel team so I do know what it is like playing for a team and one goal. I know what one cancer can do to a team. We never really had many fans so I know nothing about what they could have possibly wanted from us other than to win and I bet half of them didn’t really know what was going on in the game lol.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Heard that is an awesome place. In Gadsden?

Yes, in Gadsden. I didn’t care for it. Strike 1: they didn’t have brisket. Strike 2: they served my pulled pork already covered in bbq sauce. Great bbq doesn’t need sauce. Strike 3: they didn’t have Coke Zero. Strike 4: Bama fans everywhere.
my friend had chicken and dumplings and he said it was the best he’s ever had. But the pulled pork that I had wasn’t very good.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

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Lol...that is perfect..

 

[mrorange211]

Do we even honestly know if he had concussions

like someone else said, it could be that his expressive actions on the field afterwards forced Pruitts hand to bench him.

 

[UTSuave’]

Guess you agree it was the scheme and have no response to the point made. You are doing that thing where I make specific Point A and you reply with a non-sequitur about something bigger picture and avoid the point made. I wish there was a term for this fallacy.

"Trump had a nice suit on. Oh, so you like the Russians?!?". take a lap

Assuming you’re a coach on the coaching staff to assure “the forum” it was indeed the “Scheme” that they had in place for JG..then yeah maybe,but I’m assuming you’re not even close so a “point” doesn't have to be made based on pure assumption and speculation.No politics in the RF.

 

[zhangliao04]

@zhangliao04 pick and choose your battles bro. Give this one up. Stand your ground on TV package

That's a good trade off. She knows I'm the king of the TV and TV choices in household already.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

Prediction for Saturday. We jump on the kickin' chickens early and often.View attachment 232989

BTW, this is how peeps are made.

Happy Easter

GO VOLS

 

[BruinVol]

like someone else said, it could be that his expressive actions on the field afterwards forced Pruitts hand to bench him.

Something odd that I haven’t seen mentioned.

If the training staff had ruled 18 out why was he so visibly upset with Pruitt??

It sure seemed like Pruitt made the call and not the trainers.

 

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Yes, in Gadsden. I didn’t care for it. Strike 1: they didn’t have brisket. Strike 2: they served my pulled pork already covered in bbq sauce. Great bbq doesn’t need sauce. Strike 3: they didn’t have Coke Zero. Strike 4: Bama fans everywhere.
my friend had chicken and dumplings and he said it was the best he’s ever had. But the pulled pork that I had wasn’t very good.

Always ask for the sauce on the side. You never know what you're gonna get. Especially out of state.

 

[gainesvol82]

Yeah it’s hope at this point.
i just knew we were losing the MSU game when he came in


and then we didn’t

The ability to do it is there and that is part of what is so frustrating. I've come to terms with JGs limited ability to read a defense and see the field but he is capable of throwing a catchable ball and running the offense. All he has to do is manage the freaking game.

But he continues to get in his own head, play scared then go the opposite direction and try to do too much which leads to disaster. I'm a big believer in knowing yourself and understanding your strengths and limitations.

I'm beginning to think his number one problem is a lack of self awareness. He has not handled the humbling transition of being a bigshot NY/NJ area recruit, hyped up future big-time college QB to not very good but still capable upperclassmen. Its destroyed his psyche.

He just needs to focus on doing what he can do and play the best he can within his limitations. I thought he did that vs Miss St and good things happened.

I'll root for him but I'd rather anyone else be out there at this point.

 

[Pane di mais]

Congratulations to the dog

Joey Kent is an Alabama guy who saw the light. It happens!

 

[Dudley Smith]

Lol..I was reading that thinking "what in the wurl is ol Dudz thinking"

I’m just old and look at the straight up yardage allowed stats first. These new-fangled analytics metrics frighten and confuse me.

 

[engineerVOL]

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Unconscionable decision.

There are historically bad plays that are unfortunate like Peterman’s broken finger duck at Florida, Ainge’s desperation heave.... but this... It actually went through a man’s head that this was a good idea.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Half of the SEC will go with these lights in the next year or so and we will soon follow. The recruits and kids love them because they are stupid kids (for the most part) and things turn to crap.

More like the truth of it, but whatever.