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BruinVol said:
The issue is a year ago at this time we thought guys like Flowers, banks and Taylor were looking good

They haven’t developed and that’s a big red flag
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Yeah, not buying that take. Banks is now emerging as a legit ILB, likely starts as Bituli's replacement next year.

Flowers and Taylor are catching far too much hate. Both are 2nd year guys, with a brand new DC. And we can chirp about it being the "same" defense and "Pruitt's defense" but it's very obviously not. Losing Bryce put Taylor in a bit of a bad spot as he suddenly became the #1 CB, which as a former WR just starting his 2nd as a CB is rough.

If anything I feel like Warrior is the biggest letdown this season. He's never been the "ball hawk" type, but him not being a better tackler as a senior with the level of experience he has is just infuriating to watch.
 
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jakez4ut said:
Pete Thamel roasted Fulmer in piece he did on Yahoosports yesterday and basically said that this was Fulmer's "grand master plan", and that other programs in the SEC are giggling in the background at the thought of it.
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So he orchestrated JG being bad and somehow knew a Pruitt lead defense would struggle? Oh Bull**** lol.
If he was that much of a nostradamus, he would have known the ending to the Dave Clawson experiment. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I’m not sure that I personally think he’d do it, but it’s been floated a ton, even before this season turned to ****.

Fulmer wants to be HC here. When the Currie texts were released Fulmer had someone ask him if he’d be interested in the HC job and he said “all they have to do is ask.” He’s at every football practice coaching the offensive line whether or not the NCAA sees it. And the other thing is people believe he could sell it to the boosters as the cheap answer. Basically we’d only pay Pruitt’s buyout then Fulmer comes in as interim for the last game or so of the season. It might give him a ground floor view of how best to address the issues moving forward.
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👆 this is how the rumors start(ed)
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Yeah, not buying that take. Banks is now emerging as a legit ILB, likely starts as Bituli's replacement next year.

Flowers and Taylor are catching far too much hate. Both are 2nd year guys, with a brand new DC. And we can chirp about it being the "same" defense and "Pruitt's defense" but it's very obviously not. Losing Bryce put Taylor in a bit of a bad spot as he suddenly became the #1 CB, which as a former WR just starting his 2nd as a CB is rough.

If anything I feel like Warrior is the biggest letdown this season. He's never been the "ball hawk" type, but him not being a better tackler as a senior with the level of experience he has is just infuriating to watch.
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You don’t think that taylor and Flowers should be playing at a higher level than a year ago after all the experience they got last year?
 
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Kingston Vol said:
This class is sitting at 11th best in the SEC right now. We haven’t heard even a rumor of a commitment since the season started.

It’s going to get worse.
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The rankings right now are somewhat skewed tho.

UT is #23 with 14 commits

UK is #22 with 17 commits
Ole Miss is #21 with 23 commits
MSU is #20 with 24 commits
SC is #18 with 18 commits

UTs average is higher than all of those schools right now.

Im not saying that stays that way and we jump all those schools with a 2-10 record, but today its a little skewed. If they start losing commits and guys like Hardy and Baron commit elsewhere it will get worse.
 
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chargervol said:
So he orchestrated JG being bad and somehow knew a Pruitt lead defense would struggle? Oh Bull**** lol.
If he was that much of a nostradamus, he would have known the ending to the Dave Clawson experiment. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️
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The Thamel piece and the narrative going around that this is all Fulmer's grand plan is beyond ridiculous.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Yeah, not buying that take. Banks is now emerging as a legit ILB, likely starts as Bituli's replacement next year.

Flowers and Taylor are catching far too much hate. Both are 2nd year guys, with a brand new DC. And we can chirp about it being the "same" defense and "Pruitt's defense" but it's very obviously not. Losing Bryce put Taylor in a bit of a bad spot as he suddenly became the #1 CB, which as a former WR just starting his 2nd as a CB is rough.

If anything I feel like Warrior is the biggest letdown this season. He's never been the "ball hawk" type, but him not being a better tackler as a senior with the level of experience he has is just infuriating to watch.
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A guy like Banks wouldn’t be on the field anywhere else. The fact that he’s a near starter only shows how bad we are.
 
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BeecherVol said:
The rankings right now are somewhat skewed tho.

UT is #23 with 14 commits

UK is #22 with 17 commits
Ole Miss is #21 with 23 commits
MSU is #20 with 24 commits
SC is #18 with 18 commits

UTs average is higher than all of those schools right now.

Im not saying that stays that way and we jump all those schools with a 2-10 record, but today its a little skewed. If they start losing commits and guys like Hardy and Baron commit elsewhere it will get worse.
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I’d say there’s a pretty big reason we only have 14 commitments.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
A guy like Banks wouldn’t be on the field anywhere else. The fact that he’s a near starter only shows how bad we are.
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If Banks has someone not named Ignot getting him lined up properly, he plays the position well. If they stick with him at the LB position and keep him there, he has the tools to develop into a very good LB. They have done him a disservice by switching his position up and playing Ignot with him because Ignot is more lost than he is.
 
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At this point, the only way Pruitt has any chance of holding onto any current commits and staying inside the top 30 in recruiting is to start and play Maurer the rest of the season. Settle on your starters, mainly youth, and go with it, taking your lumps. If the older guys are mad, well then sacrifice those to show current recruits that the youth you recruited, want to play. This may salvage a class enough to get who you need to improve next season. Triage at this point...

Folks can debate the state of the program all day, but the bottom line in changing this 'ish show is TALENT (which then obviously needs to be developed). The only way top tier recruits at this point would even consider us would be the chance to start and see his new young recruits out there playing...

If this recruiting class tanks (which is where it looks to be headed), Pruitt is dead man walking. He gets another good class, then he will have zero excuses if they don't improve. It will then shift to a coaching issue and he should be shown the door.

If JG continues to play, then let the speculation flow on whether he is the right fit for our program and whether he too, is in way over his head.
 
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chargervol said:
So he orchestrated JG being bad and somehow knew a Pruitt lead defense would struggle? Oh Bull**** lol.
If he was that much of a nostradamus, he would have known the ending to the Dave Clawson experiment. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️
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well....in a word...yeah. lol.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I’d say there’s a pretty big reason we only have 14 commitments.
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I agree. But with the caveat that several of the high level guys we re after aren't committed anywhere else either at the moment. I honestly don't think we re sitting at 20 commits with wins over BYU and Ga St either. I think some of those decisions were not coming until Oct and Nov. regardless.

And IMO. We could have taken 8 -10 commits from lower level guys and been ranked higher at the moment. But thats not the goal.
 
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BruinVol said:
You don’t think that taylor and Flowers should be playing at a higher level than a year ago after all the experience they got last year?
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The problem is, the rise of other players doesn't diminish the level other players are playing at. I think Theo Jackson, KG, and Burrell might just be elevating past them. I mean Taylor had one bad play against BYU, but it's been #4 giving up more of the big gains/TDs that I've seen.

Flowers didn't play last year, so no clue how you can compare this season to his year on injure reserved.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Yeah, not buying that take. Banks is now emerging as a legit ILB, likely starts as Bituli's replacement next year.

Flowers and Taylor are catching far too much hate. Both are 2nd year guys, with a brand new DC. And we can chirp about it being the "same" defense and "Pruitt's defense" but it's very obviously not. Losing Bryce put Taylor in a bit of a bad spot as he suddenly became the #1 CB, which as a former WR just starting his 2nd as a CB is rough.

If anything I feel like Warrior is the biggest letdown this season. He's never been the "ball hawk" type, but him not being a better tackler as a senior with the level of experience he has is just infuriating to watch.
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warrior has blown way too many coverages. Taylor lost something from this year to last, probably sometihng to the whole man to zone deal that's been discussed.

banks is getting better, but still learning. it was his idea to move to LB once he saw the writing on the wall in the RB room. he'll get better. and there'll be opportunity at ILB with Bituli being done after this year.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
The problem is, the rise of other players doesn't diminish the level other players are playing at. I think Theo Jackson, KG, and Burrell might just be elevating past them. I mean Taylor had one bad play against BYU, but it's been #4 giving up more of the big gains/TDs that I've seen.

Flowers didn't play last year, so no clue how you can compare this season to his year on injure reserved.
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Burrell hasn't been great, but how many times on the plays he's been beat was it Warriors responsibility to take over the coverage? I think some of it isn't really on Burrell.
 
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