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BruinVol said:
It appears to me if JJ was the first read then he could have driven the ball firmly to him but as I have said we don’t know what the read was. I did play Qb in Hs so I know how easy the arm chair QBing appears to be. It appears to me it’s clear the right side of the field was the first read and it’s very hard to come back to the opposite side of the Field and throw into traffic
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I am pretty sure that he looked right the entire way. Palmer's man blanketed him the whole time, and the other defender was leaning that way. Why didn't he throw it away?
 
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Smokeytom said:
You’re wrong. Go watch the play in full speed. It’s a spacing route. That Lb is preoccupied by DWA. JJ quickly turns around into his space and is wide open when considering the tight windows you get in the red zone. It’s a 5 yard pass. If throw in any sort of timing it’s an easy 6.
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And he was throwing 9000 mph all day. No way they pick that off.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
The jury is still out on Ryan Day, since he's only coached a single game so far.

Kirby took over a 10-3 Mark Richt squad that had finished with 5 straight wins (and 2 of their losses were two top 15 teams in 15 Alabama & 11 Florida, with the 3rd being that crazy comeback we had against them)
Lincoln Riley took over a 11-2 Bob Stoops squad that had finished their season with 5 straight top 25 victories and hadn't lost since September 17th to OSU...he had also been the OC 2 years there
Dabo Swinney didn't inherit a great squad, but Tommy Bowden was 72-45 at Clemson with his worse season being 6-6 in his first year, he had more 8+ win seasons and never had a losing one in his tenure.

It's a bit easier to take over talent and keep the ball rolling if you will, or take over a team full of players you're familiar with (like Lincoln & Dabo did) than it is to inherit the pile that Pruitt took on.
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Don't disagree with any of that, but good coaches usually show some sort of reason to give you hope in year one. Auburn was that for us last year. This loss causes us to pause.

All of those coaches still have to be organized, be a CEO, and continue to recruit well, and none had prior head coaching experience.
 
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BruinVol said:
Just pick another play if you want to sound like you know what your are talking about. That picture you posted shows a defender in clear range to jump a throw to JJ with nothing but 6 pts ahead of the defender.
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nobody can jump a ball coming in at the speed of mach 3......
 
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BruinVol said:
Agreed if it’s the first read but it appears it’s not. With it being the second read there isn’t time to switch sides of the field due to the clock and pressure up the middle.
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He’s looking at a man over the top and underneath to his right. He has 3 routes to his left. He should’ve ruled out the right side presnap or the moment he saw that OLB drop in coverage. No matter how you slice it JG sucked on that play.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I'm going have to log off for a while. Pruitt has said repeatedly practice hasn't been a problem. Doug Matthews said Saturday was 98% on the coaches. Brent Hubbs, Pat Ryan. Jeff Francis, and Erik Ainge have said similar things. Doug was adamant in his defense of the players yesterday on 180. He insinuated Jauan Jennings was more of a man than Jeremy Pruitt for the way he handled the situation. Pruitt is slight of hand throwing his team under the bus because he's a pussy and can't handle the heat he's brought down on himself. And a lot of folks on here seem to be buying his BS.

Everybody I’ve listened to both “inside” and outside the program has to one degree or another really trashed the coaching effort last week. I’m not sure Jeremy thinks it was wrong. I think Fulmer thinks it was wrong and I think there a lot of players on our team who think it was wrong. I damn sure think it was wrong.

Here’s where I think our problem would be. We think we know Jeremy had issues with some bigwhig at Alabama, such that according to our “respected” source he would never be allowed to take the head job there, regardless of whether or not he was successful here or elsewhere. I’ve always surmised that he HAD to leave Florida State after only one year and then the stories that we didn’t want to believe about his stint at Georgia sort of indicate a pattern of behavior. He’s often described as extremely arrogant, among other things.

We have people here who tell us that we can’t afford for him to fail, literally can’t afford it, and that’s probably not just about the money involved. They say that we have people at UT that are working behind the scenes to try to fix the things that became even more apparent last Saturday. But what if he tells Fulmer to FO? What if he tells Charlie Anderson to FO?

I'll see you guys later. I get too angry to stay on here when our players are getting trashed because of the failure of their head coach.
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Well...bye.
 
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jakez4ut said:
either way. it's a big turnaround from what we were being told two weeks ago.

personally, if they were that concerned about some of the guys being problems, i would have thought more effort would have been put in to weeding them out before the season starts.

idk....but safe to say i know none of this is what we were expecting.

they really need to win Saturday night, and despite my really confident pick in the pregame/game thread, i think it's going to be really hard to see a team pull together and figure it out in a week's time, if they couldn't do it in a full off season.
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I wish BYU had upset Utah now, because at least we might have the "letdown" factor. But BYU is now coming into the game with something to prove.

Of course it may turn out BYU isn't very good as well, but something tells me they are better than GSU.
 
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Smokeytom said:
He’s looking at a man over the top and underneath to his right. He has 3 routes to his left. He should’ve ruled out the right side presnap or the moment he saw that OLB drop in coverage. No matter how you slice it JG sucked on that play.
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I’m not going to claim to know if the read should have been made presnap or not. 99% of the Posters here don’t know that either
 
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VolGee4 said:
Don't disagree with any of that, but good coaches usually show some sort of reason to give you hope in year one. Auburn was that for us last year. This loss causes us to pause.

All of those coaches still have to be organized, be a CEO, and continue to recruit well, and none had prior head coaching experience.
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Also Lincoln Riley is one of the best offensive minds in all of football.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
I wish BYU had upset Utah now, because at least we might have the "letdown" factor. But BYU is now coming into the game with something to prove.

Of course it may turn out BYU isn't very good as well, but something tells me they are better than GSU.
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Like we don’t have something to prove. BYUs something to prove trumps ours?
 
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VolGee4 said:
Don't disagree with any of that, but good coaches usually show some sort of reason to give you hope in year one. Auburn was that for us last year. This loss causes us to pause.

All of those coaches still have to be organized, be a CEO, and continue to recruit well, and none had prior head coaching experience.
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i'm sure the way Kirby managed some in game scenarios that first year gave some UGA fans pause too. they fired a guy that jusut won 10 games and the new guy took the same team to an 8-5 record. and Kirby looked shell shocked at times that first year, and he made plenty of mistakes, especially managing the game and situational football.

but situations being what they are, by year 2, he got that year 2 bump....in large part because the lions' share of that defense stuck around and chub and michel stuck around.

there's no real comparing Kirby, Day, Orgeron, or Riely's situations to Pruitt's. and i know orgeron wasn't in that group, but you think he's really THAT much better a head coach today than he was at Ole Miss? no, but LSU is A LOT different than Ole Miss....that much i can say with confidence.

and none of that means pruitt is or isn't going to be good.

but the comparison, and expectaiton from that comparison is just lazy.................
 
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