Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

[jakez4ut]

in the end, i still say get to year 4 and see what we got....and what's been accomplished (or not).

we should have a pretty good idea by then.

 

[chargervol]

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

i didn't know how they'd end it for Jon or Tyrian, though i thought there was a pretty good chance at least one of them would get got.

that neither did, doesn't bother me now that i've seen how it ends. figured if Jon didn't die, he'd be North of the Wall before the episode ended....fine with that. Tyrian's place, i guess makes sense too. but talk about falling ass backwards in to a pile of gold........lol. to say things worked out for him is putting it very mildly..........

Spoiler

Tyrions life is going to be filled with non stop drudgery like trying to figure out boring stuff like fixing the sewer system in Kings Landing, and how to pay for it...Bran was right, it is punishment..he literally begged to not have to do it..

 

[Kingston Vol]

They're always as selective as they can be. And absolutely, we'll see commitments after the camp bumps. But a lot of these commits will be under-the-radar and development guys-- and there's nothing wrong with that. This staff has proven they can sniff out and develop talent. But the top recruits on our board and some of the in-state guys are a different breed. We need them, too.

Absolutely. And you’re not wrong to say that 15 years of ineptitude has caught up with us on instate kids. What also hurt is not prioritizing the top guys in state last year. We liked some of them, but turned away a lot. (Not that its a guarantee we would have signed them, mind you, but we didn’t even really recruit them.)

This year is different - we want these guys. My guess is we’ll feel a little better about our standing once Mays and Baron jump on board. Baron especially, because he is close with a lot of the midstate guys we’re targeting.

 

[Kingston Vol]

My whole point is this: it is too early to worry about recruiting.

We have a great staff and they are great recruiters. We spare no expense to compete on top level high school athletes, if you catch my drift.

 

[InstrumentalVol]

Seems like everyone had a good time, including recruits.
"I got hit in the side 'a the hayed." - Coach Pruitt

 

[jakez4ut]

Tyrions life is going to be filled with non stop drudgery like trying to figure out boring stuff like fixing the sewer system in Kings Landing, and how to pay for it...Bran was right, it is punishment..he literally begged to not have to do it..

true. but as opposed to being burnt by drogon? acceptable "pile of gold" fate....

 

[jakez4ut]

Absolutely. And you’re not wrong to say that 15 years of ineptitude has caught up with us on instate kids. What also hurt is not prioritizing the top guys in state last year. We liked some of them, but turned away a lot. (Not that its a guarantee we would have signed them, mind you, but we didn’t even really recruit them.)

This year is different - we want these guys. My guess is we’ll feel a little better about our standing once Mays and Baron jump on board. Baron especially, because he is close with a lot of the midstate guys we’re targeting.

throw Lawrence in that group too...agreed.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

true. but as opposed to being burnt by drogon? acceptable "pile of gold" fate....

Well...when you put it that way..

 

[jakez4ut]

My whole point is this: it is too early to worry about recruiting.

We have a great staff and they are great recruiters. We spare no expense to compete on top level high school athletes, if you catch my drift.

it is too early, agreed. and i would certainly hope so..........lol.

 

[roosterjbh]

alright, which one of yall submitted this question to The Athletic?

Would you liken Tennessee Football to a tornado about to take the SEC by storm? Is it crazy to think this defense (the secondary especially) could win a few games by themselves (like they won the Kentucky and Auburn games last year)?

Roger in Little Rock

I would liken Tennessee Football to a Tropical disturbance — a few thunderstorm clouds hovering somewhere far out in the Atlantic Ocean near the equator, still at mild intensity, but which, with the right confluence of circumstances, could eventually graduate into Tropical storm and, eventually, full-blown hurricane. Or which could just as easily subside without anyone back on the mainland noticing.

 

[Newman]

 

[LA Vol]

My whole point is this: it is too early to worry about recruiting.

We have a great staff and they are great recruiters. We spare no expense to compete on top level high school athletes, if you catch my drift.

Agreed. We'll see movement this summer-- maybe not to the degree some would like, but the class will start taking shape. But here's what's different this year-- the bill has come due. If we're going to recruit at a high level, we're going to need to show that we can win at a high level. The Auburn W gave us a big boost; the Vandy L ended the season on a very sour note. This core group of in-state recruits have doubts. Relationships are mitigating-- not overcoming-- those doubts. We've got something to prove. This year, we need to prove it. I think we can.

 

[ChismsHeadband]

@HankHill doing work to get the Jets to sign Matt Darr.

#PunterU

 

[Kingston Vol]

Agreed. We'll see movement this summer-- maybe not to the degree some would like, but the class will start taking shape. But here's what's different this year-- the bill has come due. If we're going to recruit at a high level, we're going to need to show that we can win at a high level. The Auburn W gave us a big boost; the Vandy L ended the season on a very sour note. This core group of in-state recruits have doubts. Relationships are mitigating-- not overcoming-- those doubts. We've got something to prove. This year, we need to prove it. I think we can.

I am very bullish on this season as well.

But to the recruiting point, I’m not sure the bare minimum would be to create high level recruiting momentum. To be honest, there might not be a specific number of wins that would achieve said goal.

We need to win games, but more than anything, we need our current players to look like they’re having fun and flying around. And we especially need our fanbase to get rowdy in support of the current iteration of the program. We went 0/3 last year - my gut tells me we get all three this season.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Dude is so good, and he is a better storyteller/creator than Martin imo, and close to as good a writer...I used to not understand the difference.

Curious if you've read The Kingkiller Chronicle and your thoughts on that author?

 

[ChismsHeadband]

To be honest, there might not be a specific number of wins that would achieve said goal.

This is it.

I waffle back and forth on our chances of beating UofSC, MissSt, and Mizzou, between going 5-7 and 8-4.

But when it comes to recruiting, it's all about perception, momentum, and belief. We've seen it under Butch-- 2014 seeing us go 7-6, but having that miraculous comeback that shuttered Spurrier's career, and then boatracing Iowa in the bowl. Momentum was huge in our favor then. And of course, 2016 which saw us hit 9 wins for the second straight year, but everyone outside of Butch Jones knowing we vastly underachieved.

We know it when we see it.

 

[jakez4ut]

alright, which one of yall submitted this question to The Athletic?

that analogy sucked. lol.

but it's appropriate...predicting what TN will do, given our current state, is like predicting the weather.
"check back tomorrow, and open a window......."

 

[chargervol]

This is it.

I waffle back and forth on our chances of beating UofSC, MissSt, and Mizzou, between going 5-7 and 8-4.

But when it comes to recruiting, it's all about perception, momentum, and belief. We've seen it under Butch-- 2014 seeing us go 7-6, but having that miraculous comeback that shuttered Spurrier's career, and then boatracing Iowa in the bowl. Momentum was huge in our favor then. And of course, 2016 which saw us hit 9 wins for the second straight year, but everyone outside of Butch Jones knowing we vastly underachieved.

We know it when we see it.

Showed in recruiting also. The 2016 class had fewer commits (lower score) but the average was right at the same as our top 5 - 2015 class.
After the 2016 season, nose dive.

 

[jakez4ut]

Agreed. We'll see movement this summer-- maybe not to the degree some would like, but the class will start taking shape. But here's what's different this year-- the bill has come due. If we're going to recruit at a high level, we're going to need to show that we can win at a high level. The Auburn W gave us a big boost; the Vandy L ended the season on a very sour note. This core group of in-state recruits have doubts. Relationships are mitigating-- not overcoming-- those doubts. We've got something to prove. This year, we need to prove it. I think we can.

well said. agreed.

 

[jakez4ut]

This is it.

I waffle back and forth on our chances of beating UofSC, MissSt, and Mizzou, between going 5-7 and 8-4.

But when it comes to recruiting, it's all about perception, momentum, and belief. We've seen it under Butch-- 2014 seeing us go 7-6, but having that miraculous comeback that shuttered Spurrier's career, and then boatracing Iowa in the bowl. Momentum was huge in our favor then. And of course, 2016 which saw us hit 9 wins for the second straight year, but everyone outside of Butch Jones knowing we vastly underachieved.

We know it when we see it.

yep. biggest difference in that gator bowl year and today is that there was no ESD. we have that same type of bowl game this year, after ESD, the writing may already be ont he wall (for the most part, see feb signing day this past cycle) for this class.

it needs to look a lot different than last year, for sure. and a win over FL, GA or Bama wouldn't hurt. i'm not counting on the latter two. i think it's at least possible against FL.

beat Vandy. win 2/3 against MO, USCe and MSU.

i mean...i think it's there. i think so? it just doesn't seem like it is insurmountable for us to win 7/8 games THIS year. it just doesn't.

 

[Kingston Vol]

Showed in recruiting also. The 2016 class had fewer commits (lower score) but the average was right at the same as our top 5 - 2015 class.
After the 2016 season, nose dive.

Pruitt has said it over and over and it deserves to be repeated: your best recruiters are your current players.

The locker room was split last year which resulted in a disappointing year. But in addition to that, it also resulted in a semi disappointing recruiting close.

That won’t totally be fixed this year, but it’s headed in the right direction.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

1. win all 4 out of conference games, and hopefully with plenty of "blowout" time for younger players to get some snaps
2. beat Vanderbilt and Kentucky
3. win 2 or 3 of the last 6 against UF, Georgia, Bama, Miss State, South Carolina & Missouri

I think 7 wins is the floor honestly...and I'm trying not to be too sunshine pumper on this season.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

Curious if you've read The Kingkiller Chronicle and your thoughts on that author?

I read the first 2 books of the intended 3 book series and loved the story. Been waiting on that 3rd book almost as long as I have been waiting on GRRM's WInter Is Coming.

I have read that there are rights to both a movie and a tv series, but after HBO going with an unfinished ASOIAF, I really wish Rothfuss could get that final book published before that happens.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I read the first 2 books of the intended 3 book series and loved the story. Been waiting on that 3rd book almost as long as I have been waiting on GRRM's WInter Is Coming.

I have read that there are rights to both a movie and a tv series, but after HBO going with an unfinished ASOIAF, I really wish Rothfuss could get that final book published before that happens.

Heard that...we're in year 8 hoping Rothfuss publishes soon.