butchna
Sit down and tell me all about it...way over there
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LOL, I was sitting in a meeting glancing at VN and the war was going on. Left the meeting and came back to my desk and it was all gone. Like some nu-q-ler splosion blowed it all away!
Are you going to deny that the play of the QB impacts how the others look? His decisions. His reads. His timing.Didn’t say anything about anybody’s “Fault”. Just correctly catalogued his performance and the very real circumstances he and all the other players dealt with last year. You gonna really dispute the idea that our OL was utterly pathetic and our WRs were less than dynamic?
I am "biased" against the things he does poorly. He does some things well... but not enough. He needs to improve which has been my argument all along. In response, others sometimes including you take issue with criticisms.... and often deny they exist.Your bias vs JG so strong that you can’t/won’t acknowledge simple facts/circumstances?
QB's are in the front. They get lots of credit. They get lots of criticism. Their mistakes and great plays are far more obvious even to a novice than those of OL's or WR's on most plays.I've always hated how win or lose its always the QB's fault.
We'll just have to disagree. Helton has a broad background... and I don't assume he was trying to lose. It makes more sense that he was limited by things that JG couldn't do well than he and Pruitt somehow denied a struggling offense more playmaking from the QB position.
And note that you are once again throwing everyone else under the bus in order to absolve JG of all blame. Why? Some of those WR's proved they could get open for Dobbs and even Dormady. But suddenly they couldn't get open for JG? Not buying.
You also have what KC tried to do in his few chances. Hit hot routes. Lead receivers. Throw to the middle of the field.... KC isn't nearly as talented physically as JG. His penchant for making boneheaded decisions once in awhile caused him to lose his job at Stanford.
You must not have encountered Kentucky fans in the wildThey’ll think we all hate our players and lull themselves into a false sense of security.
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QB's are in the front. They get lots of credit. They get lots of criticism. Their mistakes and great players are far more obvious even to a novice than those of OL's or WR's on most plays.
JG has very good physical ability. He's tough. He's made a nice comeback from that tantrum at GT. He keeps getting up. We don't know for sure how he is in the lockerroom but the "leaks" suggest he's liked/respected.
But he simply isn't "perfect"... and some here go nuts when you objectively discuss his contributions to the bad performance of UT's O.
Oh I agree with you,its a better situation no doubt.Last year we had a QB plus a fill in. This year we have a new OC, and 3 potential Starters in the film room. Big step up in a year.
It's been ridiculous since last season!! these so called football geniuses on this site make all these statement, then start moving goal posts when someone throws stats at them. The QB can't make receivers catch balls that hit them in the hands, no more than he can make the O line or backs block. the fact that he was getting hit as often as he was and still had so few turnovers says a lot IMO..
Uhg.Yea, I almost did the same thing in the Rate Pruitt thread yesterday.
Uhg.
I could give an opinion on the recruiting class and the staff changes but so many unknowns for the rest, I stayed away.
But the TN and UF both winning 4 games so, therefore, they had the exact same circumstances narrative.
Oy Vey!
And I'm not even Jewish
Every word, every single word, trufYou know, I'm the only sumbish on VN, maybe even the innerwebz, that gets triggered, but damn near anything Florida triggers me. Lulz.
Yea, I don't ever say anything when that crap gets brought up because I know how irrelevant it is, except that everybody always wanting facts. The fact is it wasn't the exact same, Florida only played 11 games. They had that home game with the powerhouse Northern Colorado canceled.
But its interesting its so irrelevant yet it doesn't get mentioned because, well you know. If it was Tennessee they were talking about you can bet anything to make us look worse would be brought up because... "Its the facts and I know how y'all hate facts".
Buck the Gators. Buck'um and errythang they stand for.