Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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Kingston Vol said:
Why do we punish football players and not allow them to do what literally everyone else is allowed to do?
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There are a multitude of people in this country that can't quit their job and do whatever they want without repercussions. It's not uncommon.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Yeah but if you’re an economist you get something out of sitting through Econ 101. There’s literally no reason for a football player to be there.
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This is the most bull**** statement I've ever read from you. There's 0 ZERO CERO ZILCH NADA guarantee these students athletes make it in whatever professional sports they are lucky enough to be drafted into.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Yeah but if you’re an economist you get something out of sitting through Econ 101. There’s literally no reason for a football player to be there.
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except there is. he's on scholarship at a university. and to get the exposure and beneifts that come allong with being a scholarship athelete, you have to maintain your grades.

so are you advocating that scholarship atheltes simply move on to campus for 3-4 years and do nothing but play their respective sport?

what about the ones that wont' go pro? how do we determine which ones wont' and which ones will? who should go to class and who doesn't?

they just live there, play football and in 3-4 years, they're done.......? what happens after for hte ones that didn't go pro?
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I just don’t understand why football players don’t have the rights of other adults and specifically other students.

If you’re unhappy in your job, you find another job. If a college student is unhappy at TN Tech, they transfer to Austin Peay or UT. It’s not complicated.

Why do we punish football players and not allow them to do what literally everyone else is allowed to do?
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Exactly. John A Business student can leave here today and go to Kentucky, Florida, UCLA or wherever and virtually nothing stop them. But if you Play a sport ....whoa hold on now. You can practice/workout and risk getting injured for a year but you can’t play in the actual game. That’s too much.
 
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Rishvol said:
They have a buyout that needs to be paid. Whether they pay it or the school they're going to pays it. Most of the time the buyout that's getting paid is more than what goes into 1 year of a student athlete's scholarship.
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That’s not what I asked. You said:
He should stick with his school/commitment until he graduates. When that happens his commitment is done and he can go to another school.
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so how do you feel about coaches leaving for better opportunities?
 
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TheTimeIsNow said:
Any big news today folks?
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jakez4ut said:
except there is. he's on scholarship at a university. and to get the exposure and beneifts that come allong with being a scholarship athelete, you have to maintain your grades.

so are you advocating that scholarship atheltes simply move on to campus for 3-4 years and do nothing but play their respective sport?

what about the ones that wont' go pro? how do we determine which ones wont' and which ones will? who should go to class and who doesn't?

they just live there, play football and in 3-4 years, they're done.......? what happens after for hte ones that didn't go pro?
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Well, what I’m saying is players who want to go pro should be allowed to do so immediately. If they don’t make it then they don’t make it. But that is fair - and allows the free market to make the decision.

If you are someone who wants to go to college - and play football while doing so - then it is a great option for you and Tennessee would love to have you.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Because for many that is a benefit that does not matter to them and they do not want.

So being unhappy is being unhappy.
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well, that sucks for them. it's still not a reason to change the whole system.

cause likely if they're that unhappy, they probably chose the school they're at for the wrong reasons.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Well, what I’m saying is players who want to go pro should be allowed to do so immediately. If they don’t make it then they don’t make it. But that is fair - and allows the free market to make the decision.

If you are someone who wants to go to college - and play football while doing so - then it is a great option for you and Tennessee would love to have you.
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when, just now? cuase that's not what you've been saying. you've been saying these guys shoudl be able to do whatever they want.....or don't want...to do.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
A degree is useless for most of those guys. If we’re getting down to it the biggest issue is that they’re made to go to college to advance their professional prospects.

It’d be like if I told you the only way to be an astronaut would be if you did 4 years as a welders apprentice.
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Well, in order to practice law, I had to have both a bachelor's degree and a JD degree. So, I guess I should have been upset that they required me to do that to "advance my professional prospects."
 
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Kingston Vol said:
A degree is useless for most of those guys. If we’re getting down to it the biggest issue is that they’re made to go to college to advance their professional prospects.

It’d be like if I told you the only way to be an astronaut would be if you did 4 years as a welders apprentice.
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Uh, I am sorry, but a degree is not useless for anyone ever. It may not lead to the career that someone really wants, but it's better to have it than not have it.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Well, in order to practice law, I had to have both a bachelor's degree and a JD degree. So, I guess I should have been upset that they required me to do that to "advance my professional prospects."
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no, apparently you should have just played football better. cause then, it shouldn't matter what you do. you can do whatever you want.
 
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Rishvol said:
Because they're not believing that. These kids have been told they're A #1 their whole lives and then want to quit or transfer when reality hits. Fields chose Georgia. He should stick with his school/commitment until he graduates. When that happens his commitment is done and he can go to another school.
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What difference does it make what they are told their whole lives? When they sign a legal and binding contract for 4 years, including the University committing to 4 years, then you can babble about them “sticking with their commitment”. Someone mentioned earlier something about scholarships being a 4 year agreement and after research, they aren’t. They are 1 year agreements that the University can break after any year without penalty .
 
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Jimmy Football said:
There are a multitude of people in this country that can't quit their job and do whatever they want without repercussions. It's not uncommon.
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There are also a multitude of careers that require certain requirements, some of which have age requirements or requirements to learn for a period of time.
 
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Smokey123 said:
It is if the system is unfair to a certain group of people.
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but it's not unfair. everyone operates under the same rules. it's completely fair.

that you want to compare to what a coach does does't change that.

and like every recruit ever has alwayys said "never commit to a coach, commit to a school".

99% of what you guys are complaing about is pure BS because the situations these kids that find themselves in "bad"situations are genearlly because they're "unhappy"....

probably because they made bad choices. just like fields did. he knew the roster situation at QB. if he believed whatever BS Kirby told him, that's on him and his family for not making better decisions.

and his "punishment" is that he gets to be a QB at Georgia???
cry me a river...........
 
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VolGee4 said:
Well, in order to practice law, I had to have both a bachelor's degree and a JD degree. So, I guess I should have been upset that they required me to do that to "advance my professional prospects."
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I think you kinda missed his point.
I believe He’s saying why should someone be forced to go to college for 3+ years to play football professionally. Getting a degree to play football, is not the same as getting a degree to become a lawyer, teacher, doctor ect.

I don’t necessarily agree with him, but I think it’s a fair point
 
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