Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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SmokinBob said:
This is a small excerpt from The Athletic-Ubben interview with Tyson (Great Article - Ubben is real reporter and The Athletic is well-worth the subscription price!). Mods, delete if inappropriate:
How would you describe your year at Tennessee?
Invaluable. Invaluable. I loved every minute of it. Working for Coach Pruitt was unbelievable. He is truly the best football mind I’ve ever been around. A lot of people say how good of a defensive coach he is, but he’s just a really good football coach. He can walk into any room, any position room, offense, defense, special teams, and be able to bring a tremendous wealth of knowledge. I truly valued that.

And I loved during the season, because obviously we had a young team. We were trying to develop a team, but he was always able to come into an offensive staff room and be able to work with you and say, ‘OK, here’s how you can attack this defense in this way. This is their weaknesses.’ As an offensive coach, you do that, too, but he brings a new perspective of here’s why they’re doing what they’re trying to do. I just gained a tremendous wealth of knowledge. It’s something I will carry with me throughout my time here as well.

Did you ever feel restrained, in terms of what you wanted to do vs. what Jeremy wanted to do at Tennessee?
No, not necessarily. I’ve always viewed — I’m a chain-of-command guy. I believe you take on the vision of your head football coach. When I accepted this job at the University of Tennessee, I knew I wanted to work for Jeremy Pruitt. I knew Coach Pruitt and his style and what he wanted to do. I was willing to accept that, you know, and I followed that plan. He was great, too, about allowing me to do what I needed to do to try and be successful. But I’ve always said that you get the head football coach tag because you’re the guy in charge. And the people that work underneath you, they need to follow your plan. That’s why I think he’s going to be a great head coach. He had to do a lot of things this year to try and make it better for the following years, and I think that the University of Tennessee will reap those rewards as they move forward.
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So lying then or lying now or all of the above?
 
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SmokinBob said:
This is a small excerpt from The Athletic-Ubben interview with Tyson (Great Article - Ubben is real reporter and The Athletic is well-worth the subscription price!). Mods, delete if inappropriate:
How would you describe your year at Tennessee?
Invaluable. Invaluable. I loved every minute of it. Working for Coach Pruitt was unbelievable. He is truly the best football mind I’ve ever been around. A lot of people say how good of a defensive coach he is, but he’s just a really good football coach. He can walk into any room, any position room, offense, defense, special teams, and be able to bring a tremendous wealth of knowledge. I truly valued that.

And I loved during the season, because obviously we had a young team. We were trying to develop a team, but he was always able to come into an offensive staff room and be able to work with you and say, ‘OK, here’s how you can attack this defense in this way. This is their weaknesses.’ As an offensive coach, you do that, too, but he brings a new perspective of here’s why they’re doing what they’re trying to do. I just gained a tremendous wealth of knowledge. It’s something I will carry with me throughout my time here as well.

Did you ever feel restrained, in terms of what you wanted to do vs. what Jeremy wanted to do at Tennessee?
No, not necessarily. I’ve always viewed — I’m a chain-of-command guy. I believe you take on the vision of your head football coach. When I accepted this job at the University of Tennessee, I knew I wanted to work for Jeremy Pruitt. I knew Coach Pruitt and his style and what he wanted to do. I was willing to accept that, you know, and I followed that plan. He was great, too, about allowing me to do what I needed to do to try and be successful. But I’ve always said that you get the head football coach tag because you’re the guy in charge. And the people that work underneath you, they need to follow your plan. That’s why I think he’s going to be a great head coach. He had to do a lot of things this year to try and make it better for the following years, and I think that the University of Tennessee will reap those rewards as they move forward.
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TY...that is a real reporter.
 
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SmokinBob said:
This is a small excerpt from The Athletic-Ubben interview with Tyson (Great Article - Ubben is real reporter and The Athletic is well-worth the subscription price!). Mods, delete if inappropriate:
How would you describe your year at Tennessee?
Invaluable. Invaluable. I loved every minute of it. Working for Coach Pruitt was unbelievable. He is truly the best football mind I’ve ever been around. A lot of people say how good of a defensive coach he is, but he’s just a really good football coach. He can walk into any room, any position room, offense, defense, special teams, and be able to bring a tremendous wealth of knowledge. I truly valued that.

And I loved during the season, because obviously we had a young team. We were trying to develop a team, but he was always able to come into an offensive staff room and be able to work with you and say, ‘OK, here’s how you can attack this defense in this way. This is their weaknesses.’ As an offensive coach, you do that, too, but he brings a new perspective of here’s why they’re doing what they’re trying to do. I just gained a tremendous wealth of knowledge. It’s something I will carry with me throughout my time here as well.

Did you ever feel restrained, in terms of what you wanted to do vs. what Jeremy wanted to do at Tennessee?
No, not necessarily. I’ve always viewed — I’m a chain-of-command guy. I believe you take on the vision of your head football coach. When I accepted this job at the University of Tennessee, I knew I wanted to work for Jeremy Pruitt. I knew Coach Pruitt and his style and what he wanted to do. I was willing to accept that, you know, and I followed that plan. He was great, too, about allowing me to do what I needed to do to try and be successful. But I’ve always said that you get the head football coach tag because you’re the guy in charge. And the people that work underneath you, they need to follow your plan. That’s why I think he’s going to be a great head coach. He had to do a lot of things this year to try and make it better for the following years, and I think that the University of Tennessee will reap those rewards as they move forward.
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So Helton KNEW that he was taking on the challenge of the offense Pruitt wanted before taking the job.
Interesting.
 
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SmokinBob said:
This is a small excerpt from The Athletic-Ubben interview with Tyson (Great Article - Ubben is real reporter and The Athletic is well-worth the subscription price!). Mods, delete if inappropriate:
How would you describe your year at Tennessee?
Invaluable. Invaluable. I loved every minute of it. Working for Coach Pruitt was unbelievable. He is truly the best football mind I’ve ever been around. A lot of people say how good of a defensive coach he is, but he’s just a really good football coach. He can walk into any room, any position room, offense, defense, special teams, and be able to bring a tremendous wealth of knowledge. I truly valued that.

And I loved during the season, because obviously we had a young team. We were trying to develop a team, but he was always able to come into an offensive staff room and be able to work with you and say, ‘OK, here’s how you can attack this defense in this way. This is their weaknesses.’ As an offensive coach, you do that, too, but he brings a new perspective of here’s why they’re doing what they’re trying to do. I just gained a tremendous wealth of knowledge. It’s something I will carry with me throughout my time here as well.

Did you ever feel restrained, in terms of what you wanted to do vs. what Jeremy wanted to do at Tennessee?
No, not necessarily. I’ve always viewed — I’m a chain-of-command guy. I believe you take on the vision of your head football coach. When I accepted this job at the University of Tennessee, I knew I wanted to work for Jeremy Pruitt. I knew Coach Pruitt and his style and what he wanted to do. I was willing to accept that, you know, and I followed that plan. He was great, too, about allowing me to do what I needed to do to try and be successful. But I’ve always said that you get the head football coach tag because you’re the guy in charge. And the people that work underneath you, they need to follow your plan. That’s why I think he’s going to be a great head coach. He had to do a lot of things this year to try and make it better for the following years, and I think that the University of Tennessee will reap those rewards as they move forward.
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I read it when it was posted. What’s appropriate to say in public isn’t always what’s said in private.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
I read it when it was posted. What’s appropriate to say in public isn’t always what’s said in private.
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Why be two faced? If I have a problem with someone I tell them. Don't know that I would tell everyone in an article (the problem in this case with the boss), but I wouldn't lie and say I loved the experience either.
 
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Volstar65 said:
Why be two faced? If I have a problem with someone I tell them. Don't know that I would tell everyone in an article (the problem in this case with the boss), but I wouldn't lie and say I loved the experience either.
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He also wasn't forced to do the interview with Ubben. A simple no and he could trash Pruitt all he wanted to.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
He was promised that he could run his offense with no interference and that promise (along with the pay) resulted in him taking a pay cut and basically making a lateral move from a job standpoint. But he was not allowed to run the offense he wanted, and instead was forced to run some mix of what Pruitt wanted and what Will Friend wanted. When the offense struggled as a result of 1) the mixed messages and 2) operating a power running system without the personnel for it, Pruitt attacked him for it instead of backing off and allowing him to run his offense.

He was then pulled from the booth - where he preferred to coach - so that Pruitt could more closely watch him and “keep an eye on him” and the plays he was calling. Again, that’s not how you treat another adult/peer you hired to do a job.

The public tongue lashings were the last straw. He was embarrassed - as any of us would be - and didn’t like being the scapegoat.

He was going to do whatever it took to get out of here after the season. It just so happens he fell forward into a head coaching job.
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Is this all from inference and deduction or do you have a direct connection to Helton?
 
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HankHill said:
It’s fine that we disagree. But i think a Coordinator at an top 10ish program making 400k more is a better job than a head coach at a bottom 20ish? Program...
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Ehh, I’m sure his main goal is to get a P5 HC job somewhere. His chances probably increase faster at WKU than staying at UT
 
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reVOLution33 said:
Honestly, think, Heather and Tyler are the worst. I can not stand Tyler.
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Tyler is by far the worst in Knoxville. I don’t know how to describe the way he speaks. It’s like constant catch phrases mixed with unnecessary dramatic pauses. I kinda miss Mickey telling Heather to shut up.
 
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BruinVol said:
Lol

Good one

I hope you are right as
I don't think I can bet it at 9.5

I would at 15 though
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I’ve watched several Memphis games this year. Their ball handlers are young. Think our defense will give them problems.

Trey Harris, one of their freshmen PG, will shoot it from Arkansas though, and he can make them.
 
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VolsnCards5 said:
I’ve watched several Memphis games this year. Their ball handlers are young. Think our defense will give them problems.

Trey Harris, one of their freshmen PG, will shoot it from Arkansas though, and he can make them.
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Yea he's good

I think he would be a vol had penny not gotten that job
 
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ChismsHeadband said:
It's all about exposure. He'll get plenty of exposure if he turns WKU into a winner in only a couple of years. Likewise, if he directed our offense that saw huge strides from Year 1 to Year 2, same story. Two years with optimal results at either stop would see P5 schools calling him up for open HC positions. I'd say it's pretty evenly lateral.
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Disagree. In terms of responsibility, among other things, going from a OC to a HC is not a lateral move. I wouldn't say exposure is the key factor, and I don't think pay is in this case. Guess I'll agree to disagree on this point.
 
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volinbama256 said:
OR, he could have leaned into the adversity, worked his butt off and tried to improve and find a starting spot on the field like others do... but things apparently weren't going his way, so essentially he's quitting or running away... this is a soft generation.
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So for UT it works out.
 
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