Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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BruinVol said:
Anyone know if rules permit declaring for the draft and then withdrawing to transfer ?
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i don't think you can do that. unlike the NBA, where you can declare, and as long as you don't sign with an agent, you can retain your amateur status, i think once you declare for the NFL draft, you forfeit your amateur status.

if i'm wrong, i'm sure somone will let us know. lol.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i don't think you can do that. unlike the NBA, where you can declare, and as long as you don't sign with an agent, you can retain your amateur status, i think once you declare for the NFL draft, you forfeit your amateur status.

if i'm wrong, i'm sure somone will let us know. lol.
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Lol

Where's Butcha when we need him?
 
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LynxVol said:
OK.

It's a big pay cut. It's also WKU. Other than the pay cut, it's absolutely not a lateral move.
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It’s fine that we disagree. But i think a Coordinator at an top 10ish program making 400k more is a better job than a head coach at a bottom 20ish? Program...
 
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HankHill said:
It’s fine that we disagree. But i think a Coordinator at an top 10ish program making 400k more is a better job than a head coach at a bottom 20ish? Program...
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I don't think everyone is the same.
Far from uncommon to want your own thing. Especially if getting yelled at by your boss is hard for you.
 
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HankHill said:
It’s fine that we disagree. But i think a Coordinator at an top 10ish program making 400k more is a better job than a head coach at a bottom 20ish? Program...
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It's all about exposure. He'll get plenty of exposure if he turns WKU into a winner in only a couple of years. Likewise, if he directed our offense that saw huge strides from Year 1 to Year 2, same story. Two years with optimal results at either stop would see P5 schools calling him up for open HC positions. I'd say it's pretty evenly lateral.
 
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VQRando: "Hi coach. Can you tell me what it was like working under Pruitt?"
Helton: "Sure. Who is this?"
VQRando: "This is probably Hugh Freeze."
Helton: "Ok. What do you want to know specifically? I'm kinda busy.
VQRando: "The job pay good?"
Helton: "Was paying me nearly one and half times what I'm making now."
VQRando: "Wow. With pay like that, I bet they let you run your own offense?"
Helton: "Did in the beginning.
VQRando: "What changed?"
Helton: "It sucked. Pruitt demanded change. So I ran lots of runs to spite him."
VQRando: "But,... you did call the plays right?"
Helton: "Yeah. But I wouldn't exactly call the plays 'mine'. They were his mostly."
VQRando: "So he paid you over a million a year to just sit up in the booth and call the plays he told you to?"
Helton: "That's just it. He didn't even let me sit in the booth the whole year. Made me come down to the sidelines."
VQRando: "Wow. That sounds kind of messed up."
Helton: "You are telling me. I had to get out of there."
VQRando: "So you were willing to pay your own buyout, just to leave?"
Helton: "Naw. Pruitt agreed to let me leave without paying it."
VQRando: "Sounds like a trick. I bet he was up to something."
Helton: "Yeah. He's a jerk. He yelled at me in front of my friends."
VQRando: "No way in hell would I stand for that. I would rather coach at Liberty."
Helton: "No doubt."
VQRando: "Well, I've heard enough. I'm gonna go post this on the foru.... I mean.... I'm gonna go try to get a job elsewhere."
Helton: "Copy that. Over and out."
 
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HankHill said:
It’s fine that we disagree. But i think a Coordinator at an top 10ish program making 400k more is a better job than a head coach at a bottom 20ish? Program...
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It's still a head coaching position so it is a move up with lower pay. He wasn't happy. Pruitt wasn't happy. It worked out fine. It's the nobody can work with Pruitt being thrown out there that I'm having trouble with.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Lol he does not like Jeremy Pruitt. He doesn’t care about bridges with him at all.
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This is a small excerpt from The Athletic-Ubben interview with Tyson (Great Article - Ubben is real reporter and The Athletic is well-worth the subscription price!). Mods, delete if inappropriate:
How would you describe your year at Tennessee?
Invaluable. Invaluable. I loved every minute of it. Working for Coach Pruitt was unbelievable. He is truly the best football mind I’ve ever been around. A lot of people say how good of a defensive coach he is, but he’s just a really good football coach. He can walk into any room, any position room, offense, defense, special teams, and be able to bring a tremendous wealth of knowledge. I truly valued that.

And I loved during the season, because obviously we had a young team. We were trying to develop a team, but he was always able to come into an offensive staff room and be able to work with you and say, ‘OK, here’s how you can attack this defense in this way. This is their weaknesses.’ As an offensive coach, you do that, too, but he brings a new perspective of here’s why they’re doing what they’re trying to do. I just gained a tremendous wealth of knowledge. It’s something I will carry with me throughout my time here as well.

Did you ever feel restrained, in terms of what you wanted to do vs. what Jeremy wanted to do at Tennessee?
No, not necessarily. I’ve always viewed — I’m a chain-of-command guy. I believe you take on the vision of your head football coach. When I accepted this job at the University of Tennessee, I knew I wanted to work for Jeremy Pruitt. I knew Coach Pruitt and his style and what he wanted to do. I was willing to accept that, you know, and I followed that plan. He was great, too, about allowing me to do what I needed to do to try and be successful. But I’ve always said that you get the head football coach tag because you’re the guy in charge. And the people that work underneath you, they need to follow your plan. That’s why I think he’s going to be a great head coach. He had to do a lot of things this year to try and make it better for the following years, and I think that the University of Tennessee will reap those rewards as they move forward.
 
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