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#76
Thunder Good-Oil said:
Because that's most likely the biggest deficiency on the team. Bone's shot the last 2 years has been very flat. Bowden is wildly inconsistent. Turner doesn't really have the best firm unless he's altered it this off-season. JJ, Pons, and even AS don't seem to be especially skilled as perimeter shooters. KA's a pretty good FT shooter but has had few 3P attempts.
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We ranked top 50 nationally in 3pt%, not sure why you would think that is this teams biggest deficiency?
 
#78
#78
Thunder Good-Oil said:
Because that's most likely the biggest deficiency on the team. Bone's shot the last 2 years has been very flat. Bowden is wildly inconsistent. Turner doesn't really have the best firm unless he's altered it this off-season. JJ, Pons, and even AS don't seem to be especially skilled as perimeter shooters. KA's a pretty good FT shooter but has had few 3P attempts.
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Throwing in a little lite humor to ask a serious question, What does Turners firm have to do with him making a three? Reggie Miller has the worst firm I’ve ever seen(other than Bill Cartwright) and is arguably the best of all time.
 
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#79
cncchris33 said:
Schofield, Bowden, and Turner led the team in 3 point FG attempts last season and each shot an identical 39.5%, respectively. Bone was 5th in attempts and shot 38%. Daniel was 4th in attempts and shot 37.2%. As a team, we were 3rd in the SEC in 3-pt FG%. How is that a deficiency?

Care to take a stab as to how many other SEC teams got that level of consistency from their top 4 shooters?
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I think that I said perimeter shooter, not 3-point scorer.
 
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#81
cncchris33 said:
LOL...okay. So we're splitting hairs now. What do you call the perimeter? The perimeter of what?
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The 3-PL isn't a very long shot anymore. There's also a difference between being a scorer and a shooter that you failed to pick up on. Most of our 3s have been a result of ball movement and finding somebody unguarded toeing up to the 3PL... Turner being a possible exception.

Rob Lanier on JF:
"He is such a good shooter. He is a tough kid with good size and is a good athlete."

I go early and watch the "shoot" around. I've not been to a pre-game "score" around.
 
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#82
Lefteye said:
Throwing in a little lite humor to ask a serious question, What does Turners firm have to do with him making a three? Reggie Miller has the worst firm I’ve ever seen(other than Bill Cartwright) and is arguably the best of all time.
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Miller had length which made him a great scorer. Mike Edwards, Allan Houston, and Michael Brooks had great form and were great shooters. Lofton and Tony White are exceptions. Lofton faded away. White leaned into his shot. Although he mainly played with his back to the basket at UT, Dale Ellis had great form. Squared up his shoulders and had perfect rotation on his shot. Bert Bertelkamp was another great shooter, but not a great scorer. I remember watching him routinely drop 10 in a row from the top of the circle in shoot arounds. Usually great shooters knock down 80-85% plus from the FT stripe. Bill Justus was another great shooter and a pretty good scorer as well.
 
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#85
Thunder Good-Oil said:
Because that's most likely the biggest deficiency on the team. Bone's shot the last 2 years has been very flat. Bowden is wildly inconsistent. Turner doesn't really have the best firm unless he's altered it this off-season. JJ, Pons, and even AS don't seem to be especially skilled as perimeter shooters. KA's a pretty good FT shooter but has had few 3P attempts.
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I think that I said perimeter shooter, not 3-point scorer.
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You said perimeter shooter, but then make mention of the fact that KA has taken few 3 point shots. Sure seems like you were making that connection between the perimeter and the 3 point shot.

Thunder Good-Oil said:
The 3-PL isn't a very long shot anymore. There's also a difference between being a scorer and a shooter that you failed to pick up on. Most of our 3s have been a result of ball movement and finding somebody unguarded toeing up to the 3PL... Turner being a possible exception.

Rob Lanier on JF:
"He is such a good shooter. He is a tough kid with good size and is a good athlete."

I go early and watch the "shoot" around. I've not been to a pre-game "score" around.
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And here again you make mention of 3 point shooting, even attempting to convince me that 20'-9" isn't what 20'-9" used to be. 🤯

Your last 3 posts are a real mess. I can't even really tell what point it is you are trying to make, anymore. Do you even know? Because you are all over the place, here. I mean, other than professing your irrational obsession with Jacob Fleschman.

What a strange hill to die on, but that isn't new.
 
#86
#86
Thunder Good-Oil said:
The 3-PL isn't a very long shot anymore. There's also a difference between being a scorer and a shooter that you failed to pick up on. Most of our 3s have been a result of ball movement and finding somebody unguarded toeing up to the 3PL... Turner being a possible exception.

Rob Lanier on JF:
"He is such a good shooter. He is a tough kid with good size and is a good athlete."

I go early and watch the "shoot" around. I've not been to a pre-game "score" around.
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I once saw Duke Crews in a shoot around hit 9/10 three pointers and he wasn’t a good shooter
 
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#87
Bowden and Turner are the only players we've got that Im confident in their outside shot.
 
#92
#92
cncchris33 said:
You said perimeter shooter, but then make mention of the fact that KA has taken few 3 point shots. Sure seems like you were making that connection between the perimeter and the 3 point shot.


And here again you make mention of 3 point shooting, even attempting to convince me that 20'-9" isn't what 20'-9" used to be. 🤯

Your last 3 posts are a real mess. I can't even really tell what point it is you are trying to make, anymore. Do you even know? Because you are all over the place, here. I mean, other than professing your irrational obsession with Jacob Fleschman.

What a strange hill to die on, but that isn't new.
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I consider a perimeter shot to be from no less than the 3PL. I consider outside the paint and inside the 3PL to be a mid-range shot. Therefore a player that's rarely taken a 3 has rarely shot from the perimeter. But carry on with your analysis of with my post. Maybe you'll earn a cookie for your obsession.
 
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#94
Thunder Good-Oil said:
I consider a perimeter shot to be from no less than the 3PL. I consider outside the paint and inside the 3PL to be a mid-range shot. Therefore a player that's rarely taken a 3 has rarely shot from the perimeter. But carry on with your analysis of with my post. Maybe you'll earn a cookie for your obsession.
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My obsession? That's rich.
 
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#95
Im not as high on Admiral as most.

I know he's a tremendous athlete and has the body of an 8th grader playing with 5th graders but I'd much rather him be trying to slash to the basket and be a bruiser than to be relying on the 3.

Im not saying he's Stanley Asumnu by any means but he's not Lang Wiseman either and he's a damn fine college player but there need be no question that this is Grant Williams's team.
 
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#96
Thunder Good-Oil said:
Miller had length which made him a great scorer. Mike Edwards, Allan Houston, and Michael Brooks had great form and were great shooters. Lofton and Tony White are exceptions. Lofton faded away. White leaned into his shot. Although he mainly played with his back to the basket at UT, Dale Ellis had great form. Squared up his shoulders and had perfect rotation on his shot. Bert Bertelkamp was another great shooter, but not a great scorer. I remember watching him routinely drop 10 in a row from the top of the circle in shoot arounds. Usually great shooters knock down 80-85% plus from the FT stripe. Bill Justus was another great shooter and a pretty good scorer as well.
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Good info but I see nothing there that keeps someone with non textbook form from being a steady 3 point shooter.
 
#97
#97
Looking at the cumulative stats Admiral was a little better from 3 than I gave him credit for but I still dont think that's his bread and butter and I dont think he'd say it was either.

Ill put it like this.

I'd say Admiral is more likely to have a career in WWE than he is to have a career in the NBA.

He'll probably have a cup of coffee but not a career.
 
#98
#98
SweetDaddy said:
Looking at the cumulative stats Admiral was a little better from 3 than I gave him credit for but I still dont think that's his bread and butter and I dont think he'd say it was either.

Ill put it like this.

I'd say Admiral is more likely to have a career in WWE than he is to have a career in the NBA.

He'll probably have a cup of coffee but not a career.
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He also showed a turnaround fade that is hard to pull off for anybody. It’s also dang near impossible to guard. But his cup of coffee will be longer than than folks think for the same reason Rich has had success. He’s improved every year he was here, and he believes in playing defense. Jmo
 
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#99
#99
SweetDaddy said:
Looking at the cumulative stats Admiral was a little better from 3 than I gave him credit for but I still dont think that's his bread and butter and I dont think he'd say it was either.

Ill put it like this.

I'd say Admiral is more likely to have a career in WWE than he is to have a career in the NBA.

He'll probably have a cup of coffee but not a career.
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And Bowden/Turner are? Schofield is the most likely of the 3 ilo
 
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