Jalen Johnson

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SweetDaddy said:
If Turner is your only real backup PG and Bowden and Schofield start then your only backup wings are Pons and Johnson.
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Barnes uses all sorts of combinations, not just 2 deep at each spot. Last night Fulk, GW, and KA were on the floor together for a spell. At another point Turner, Bone, and Bowden played together. This team could function with Schofield or even Woodson at the PG spot. Really they could get by without one if the other team doesn't have a prolific scorer at the PG that shreds zones. The most effective offense is when the defense is disruptive leading to points in transition.
 
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#27
SweetDaddy said:
Johnson better be able to contribute or we'll have depth issues on the wing.
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That is the one position we have zero depth issues. It's also the main reason JJ hasn't and likely won't again see a ton of action. Would love for him to prove me wrong though.
 
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SweetDaddy said:
If Turner is your only real backup PG and Bowden and Schofield start then your only backup wings are Pons and Johnson.
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Turner can be a backup at more than one position. Being the primary backup at PG doesn't preclude him from giving us minutes on the wing, as well.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Turner can be a backup at more than one position. Being the primary backup at PG doesn't preclude him from giving us minutes on the wing, as well.
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That's another thing that Barnes has really excelled at. Everybody on the roster knows at least 2 spots. Most can play 3 and a couple could even play in 4 different positions. The only thing we don't have is a Magic Johnson type that can be great at the PG, the center spot, and anything in between. I guess Magic's biggest weakness would have been as a shooting guard (but he could be a "2" if playing with a perimeter shooting threat at the 1 and/or the 3.).
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
That's another thing that Barnes has really excelled at. Everybody on the roster knows at least 2 spots. Most can play 3 and a couple could even play in 4 different positions. The only thing we don't have is a Magic Johnson type that can be great at the PG, the center spot, and anything in between. I guess Magic's biggest weakness would have been as a shooting guard (but he could be a "2" if playing with a perimeter shooting threat at the 1 and/or the 3.).
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Admiral is maybe the closest thing we have to a player who could potentially log minutes at all 5 positions. Not saying he would be a rousing success at all 5, or that you would want him logging major minutes at all 5 spots, but of all 12 guys, he has the most versatile skill set.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Admiral is maybe the closest thing we have to a player who could potentially log minutes at all 5 positions. Not saying he would be a rousing success at all 5, or that you would want him logging major minutes at all 5 spots, but of all 12 guys, he has the most versatile skill set.
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No doubt he can post up defenders that don't have a big height advantage. He might actually be more effective on the low post blocks than the high post. His turnaround, fadeaway shot looked great last night.

I don't know who after Bone is the most capable of breaking a full court press and getting the half court offense in motion. Probably Turner. Maybe Admiral. Hopefully Bowden by the time that conference play starts.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Bone, Turner, Bowden, Schofield and Pons...5 guys for 3 position, that’s 120 total minutes, the first 4 all warrant 28-30mpg which totals 112-120 minutes, not much left for Johnson.
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But what about inevitable injuries?

Thus me saying not much depth.

You dont always have to be right Brother.
 
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I really think you guys need to start thinking of Pons as Admiral 2.0. He has the size, athletic ability and the willingness to work hard to get better. He's a lot like Admiral already, just quieter.
 
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SweetDaddy said:
But what about inevitable injuries?

Thus me saying not much depth.

You dont always have to be right Brother.
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I think that this roster can endure a single injury or defection. Even if it was Bone. 2 or more key injuries and the road to an EE or FF becomes much more hazardous.
 
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StrangeVol said:
I really think you guys need to start thinking of Pons as Admiral 2.0. He has the size, athletic ability and the willingness to work hard to get better. He's a lot like Admiral already, just quieter.
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That's what I expected this year. But then he was the 6th man last night and subbed for Bowden.
 
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SweetDaddy said:
But what about inevitable injuries?

Thus me saying not much depth.

You dont always have to be right Brother.
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Which inevitable injuries occurred last season that forced Johnson or Pons into action?

If injuries happen then sure, Johnson could be a factor, as could Kent and Burns, never know.

As things stand Johnson isn’t likely to be relied on very much in meaningful games, it’s ok to be wrong.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Which inevitable injuries occurred last season that forced Johnson or Pons into action?

If injuries happen then sure, Johnson could be a factor, as could Kent and Burns, never know.

As things stand Johnson isn’t likely to be relied on very much in meaningful games, it’s ok to be wrong.
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I didn't say he'd be all SEC.

All I said was he was depth and your opinion of him doesnt change that.
 
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SweetDaddy said:
I didn't say he'd be all SEC.

All I said was he was depth and your opinion of him doesnt change that.
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What’s your definition of depth? Is Brad Woodson and Jacob Fleschman also depth?

I take that to mean you expect Johnson to play in most every game and to see meaningful minutes, I don’t expect that to be the case.
 
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Depth is exactly what everyone else in the world thinks it is.

Insurance in case its needed.

Like Ive said multiple times if Bone is your PG and Turner is your backup and if you start Bowden and Schofield then your only scholarship backups are Johnson and Pons.

I get that Turner will probably get the majority of your backup minutes at the 2 and that Pons will be your primary backup at the 3 and that leaves Johnson competing with Pons for minutes but all I ever said was depth.

If you didnt have Johnson what happens if you lose one of those top 5?

You're playing a walk on or someone who isnt much better than one [Fulkerson].

Thus me saying depth.

That's not confusing or even able to be disputed.
 
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#44
Zach Kent is a key depth piece in case of frontcourt court injuries, glad we’ve got him on the roster, gotta have depth like that.
 
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#49
I think what he’s sayin is, if someone gets injured we will need Jalen to step up.
 
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What I see is someone who lives on this board and feels like its his responsibility to respond to every post and doesnt like it when someone stands up to him.

Brother you aint Coach K and whether you believe it or not you've been wrong as much as anyone here.

I havent said one thing yet that's wrong on the subject.

You just absolutely have to have the last word.

You'll respond to this post in 3.4 seconds with nothing that adds to the subject or discredits me.
 
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