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Not all that surprising about Stoops. Okla is invested in winning. Letting Texas rack up the most points in the series history wasn't going to go unnoticed. Riley's probably still stewing over the Rose Bowl.

Wonder if he'll end up at UK?
 
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LA Vol said:
Not all that surprising about Stoops. Okla is invested in winning. Letting Texas rack up the most points in the series history wasn't going to go unnoticed. Riley's probably still stewing over the Rose Bowl.

Wonder if he'll end up at UK?
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Eh probably wind up Bob's guest house... Lol
 
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Fitz has 500+ yards rushing and 7 TDS. Vols leading rusher has 258 yards and 2TDS. But hey, MSU and UF don't have above average QBs. Some of these Vol Posters need to quit disagreeing and look at the facts.
 
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jkleno said:
Fitz has 500+ yards rushing and 7 TDS. Vols leading rusher has 258 yards and 2TDS. But hey, MSU and UF don't have above average QBs. Some of these Vol Posters need to quit disagreeing and look at the facts.
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Franks has a 51% vs P5 teams this year, averaging only 6.8 YPA, with 3 INT’s and 6 TD’s.

The only reason Franks is even completing 51% is because he completed 22 of 31 passes vs MSU, but the far majority were screen passes and within 3 yards of LOS because they were too scared he’d a make a mistake.
 
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jkleno said:
Typical slow vol fan. He is has 13 TDs to 4 Ints. But as a myopic, that isn't above average.
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7 of his TD passes came against an FCS school and one of the worst defenses in all of CFB. Nobody who knows anything about football thinks he’s above average
 
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jkleno said:
Fitz has 500+ yards rushing and 7 TDS. Vols leading rusher has 258 yards and 2TDS. But hey, MSU and UF don't have above average QBs. Some of these Vol Posters need to quit disagreeing and look at the facts.
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I didn’t see anyone say Fitzgerald wasn’t above average. Last time I checked Fitz wasn’t playing for UF
 
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jkleno said:
Fitz has 500+ yards rushing and 7 TDS. Vols leading rusher has 258 yards and 2TDS. But hey, MSU and UF don't have above average QBs. Some of these Vol Posters need to quit disagreeing and look at the facts.
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Franks is #9 in the SEC in yards, #11 in %, #9 in YA, 3rd most INT’s, #2 in TD’s tho. The SEC isn’t known for having dominating QB’s either. Look at the facts.

Above average my ass
 
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Dan Mullen: An VN Oral History, retold by Nicksjuzunk:

I would like to give some history and context to the Dan Mullen debate. I'm going to dig just a bit through post history, because I've got a weird memory and these things are able to be found if you desire to search.

1. The Context: When this debate began, Butch Jones was still the head coach. Generally speaking, there were roughly speaking, two camps. Gruden, and other coaching candidates. The most "reasonable" names circulated at this point are as follows:

a. Jon Gruden
b. Scott Frost
c. Dan Mullen
d. Chip Kelly
e. Other names, Patterson, Brohm, Campbell, were also pitched around.

At this point in the game, every Vol fan had the exact same thing in mind... bring me the coach who will give us the opportunity to win championships. We heard things such as "money will not be an issue" to get our hopes very high. When Butch is fired, Currie gives the illusion that he is about to run this thing. Hopes are high on Rocky Top. We were told we were "swimming in different waters."

2. The Conversation: So, being a message board, we begin to pick apart each candidate. Gruden has never been a college coach, Frost has never won at a big program, Kelly would never come, Campbell's buy out, Brohm is too small, Patterson will never come, etc. This brings us to Dan Mullen. I was largely one of the Mullen detractors, which is well known. I believe McGill coined the phrase "Mehlan", which unfortunately was more catching than my personal "7.5 win Dan". I'm not about to go over the reasons of the anti-Mullens, as this has been discussed endlessly, but the context seems to be lost and only the conversation is remembered. No one every questions whether Mullen was a "good" coach. He is obviouslly a great quarterback coach and did very well at Mississippi State. The question at this point in the game was, "Can he bring championships to Tennessee?" Because that is exactly what our eye was on at this point in the game. I personally, did not think so.

3. The Continuation: So, we are knee deep in the coaching search, and it becomes clear, we've been fed a line. There is no Santa, there will be no "proven winner" hired, and suddenly
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When it became clear that we would not be able to hire a tier 1 coach, most people said Mullen would be just fine... but Florida had grabbed him. Later on, in March, I would admit...

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4. The Concession: Given the resources at Florida, it's obvious that

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But will he win championships? I still tend to think not, though he certainly could.

5. The Conclusion: Having now settled exhaustively how 95% of anti-Mullen posters feel about Dan Mullen, I would like to let you konw that I will continue to take shots at Mullen every chance that I get. I will laugh at his dancing, mock his cheesy quotes and call him 7.5 Win Dan with every single loss that he takes. I am a fan, and he coaches my most hated rival. It doesn't mean I think he is a terrible coach, but I'll hammer that if he gives me nails. I am not sure if we will ever get the joy of overtaking the Gators while he coaches, but with every slip, I will be there to gloat, because when your team is as bad as the Vols are right now, you gotta enjoy something.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Dan Mullen: An VN Oral History, retold by Nicksjuzunk:

I would like to give some history and context to the Dan Mullen debate. I'm going to dig just a bit through post history, because I've got a weird memory and these things are able to be found if you desire to search.

1. The Context: When this debate began, Butch Jones was still the head coach. Generally speaking, there were roughly speaking, two camps. Gruden, and other coaching candidates. The most "reasonable" names circulated at this point are as follows:

a. Jon Gruden
b. Scott Frost
c. Dan Mullen
d. Chip Kelly
e. Other names, Patterson, Brohm, Campbell, were also pitched around.

At this point in the game, every Vol fan had the exact same thing in mind... bring me the coach who will give us the opportunity to win championships. We heard things such as "money will not be an issue" to get our hopes very high. When Butch is fired, Currie gives the illusion that he is about to run this thing. Hopes are high on Rocky Top. We were told we were "swimming in different waters."

2. The Conversation: So, being a message board, we begin to pick apart each candidate. Gruden has never been a college coach, Frost has never won at a big program, Kelly would never come, Campbell's buy out, Brohm is too small, Patterson will never come, etc. This brings us to Dan Mullen. I was largely one of the Mullen detractors, which is well known. I believe McGill coined the phrase "Mehlan", which unfortunately was more catching than my personal "7.5 win Dan". I'm not about to go over the reasons of the anti-Mullens, as this has been discussed endlessly, but the context seems to be lost and only the conversation is remembered. No one every questions whether Mullen was a "good" coach. He is obviouslly a great quarterback coach and did very well at Mississippi State. The question at this point in the game was, "Can he bring championships to Tennessee?" Because that is exactly what our eye was on at this point in the game. I personally, did not think so.

3. The Continuation: So, we are knee deep in the coaching search, and it becomes clear, we've been fed a line. There is no Santa, there will be no "proven winner" hired, and suddenly
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When it became clear that we would not be able to hire a tier 1 coach, most people said Mullen would be just fine... but Florida had grabbed him. Later on, in March, I would admit...

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4. The Concession: Given the resources at Florida, it's obvious that

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But will he win championships? I still tend to think not, though he certainly could.

5. The Continuation: Having now settled exhaustively how 95% of anti-Mullen posters feel about Dan Mullen, I would like to let you konw that I will continue to take shots at Mullen every chance that I get. I will laugh at his dancing, mock his cheesy quotes and call him 7.5 Win Dan with every single loss that he takes. I am a fan, and he coaches my most hated rival. It doesn't mean I think he is a terrible coach, but I'll hammer that if he gives me nails. I am not sure if we will ever get the joy of overtaking the Gators while he coaches, but with every slip, I will be there to gloat, because when your team is as bad as the Vols are right now, you gotta enjoy something.
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