To Protect and to Serve II

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Have you seen where police departments are claiming they’ll have to euthanize their dogs if marijuana is made legal?
 
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hndog609 said:
Agreed, there'll be topless birkenstock-wearing, patchoulie smelling PETA freaks shooting at cops if that goes down.
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No, there'd be all sorts of former and current K-9 handlers that will cause all kinds of a ruckus if such a thing were to happen. Now, the caveat to that is if such a dog has social issues (a patrol dog that is overaggressive and unpredictable in the public for example), I could see such a thing being possibly necessary. However, just because "weed was legalized" is not going to fly. And I'd dare them to try to take them away from loyal handlers to euthanize them for that specific reason.

PETA would be the least of their concerns.
 
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Grand Vol said:
No, there'd be all sorts of former and current K-9 handlers that will cause all kinds of a ruckus if such a thing were to happen. Now, the caveat to that is if such a dog has social issues (a patrol dog that is overaggressive and unpredictable in the public for example), I could see such a thing being possibly necessary. However, just because "weed was legalized" is not going to fly. And I'd dare them to try to take them away from loyal handlers to euthanize them for that specific reason.

PETA would be the least of their concerns.
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My understanding is that Baltimore was able to successfully retrain their dogs also, after marijuana reform
 
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Grand Vol said:
No, there'd be all sorts of former and current K-9 handlers that will cause all kinds of a ruckus if such a thing were to happen. Now, the caveat to that is if such a dog has social issues (a patrol dog that is overaggressive and unpredictable in the public for example), I could see such a thing being possibly necessary. However, just because "weed was legalized" is not going to fly. And I'd dare them to try to take them away from loyal handlers to euthanize them for that specific reason.

PETA would be the least of their concerns.
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In fairness I didn't say they would be the only ones. Actually I just thought they'd be the funniest. In truth there would be a huge backlash pretty much across the board I would think.
 
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Vol8188 said:
My understanding is that Baltimore was able to successfully retrain their dogs also, after marijuana reform
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Honestly, it's not an easy process and you have to get the training in when a dog is far younger. Once they hit a certain age (don't ask me to put a number on it though as every dog is different just like people) the dog simply wouldn't be able to be easily retrained because they've been doing it for so long. Old dog, new tricks kind of thing.

It's a hollow threat that can, will and has backfired significantly on them. Like I said, some dogs just cannot be released due to their lack of social skills, but certainly not most of them. Especially not a lot of the Malinois and German Shepherds that far easily acclimate to a family environment when they "adopt" a family as their "pack."
 
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Grand Vol said:
Honestly, it's not an easy process and you have to get the training in when a dog is far younger. Once they hit a certain age (don't ask me to put a number on it though as every dog is different just like people) the dog simply wouldn't be able to be easily retrained because they've been doing it for so long. Old dog, new tricks kind of thing.

It's a hollow threat that can, will and has backfired significantly on them. Like I said, some dogs just cannot be released due to their lack of social skills, but certainly not most of them. Especially not a lot of the Malinois and German Shepherds that far easily acclimate to a family environment when they "adopt" a family as their "pack."
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In Germany, the best dogs are started on general obedience at about 6-8 weeks. The best of them will have their Schutzhund I, II, and III by or before 2 years. Also, in Germany it is still very tightly regulated with what dogs will be allowed to live to even pursue Schutzhund. Most, are sadly put down a little bit after birth. Bloodlines matter most, and the ability to have the best dogs starts with this. Unfortunately, in America, some of the worst handlers and dogs are police K9's.

Schutzhund work and police is sometimes a mixed bag and not representative of what a good Schutzhund dog is and should be.

A good, well trained Schutzhund dog will be able to be "placed" with a normal family with ease. Yes there is an adjustment period, but, these dogs do nothing but live to please.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Surely there is more to the story. Maybe that is a training technique? Maybe the headline is wrong and they were not checking for drugs.
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A training technique? Like "you get punished when you don't act like you found drugs. just fake it, dummy."
 
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n_huffhines said:
A training technique? Like "you get punished when you don't act like you found drugs. just fake it, dummy."
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I don’t trust the whole drug dog thing. Can they find drugs? Yes. But if you can train them to find drugs you can train them to act like they found drugs. And then it’s a free pass to search the car. And zero repercussions if they find nothing. Dog must have been wrong I guess. Can’t ask him because he’s an f ing dog. But it’s another toy to play with and another way around pesky PC guidelines.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
I don’t trust the whole drug dog thing. Can they find drugs? Yes. But if you can train them to find drugs you can train them to act like they found drugs. And then it’s a free pass to search the car. And zero repercussions if they find nothing. Dog must have been wrong I guess. Can’t ask him because he’s an f ing dog. But it’s another toy to play with and another way around pesky PC guidelines.
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Yeah, drug dogs are basically a free pass to piss on the 4th amendment.
 
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Sometimes you do have to chuckle at what cops encounter.

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Rasputin_Vol said:
Saw that earlier. I was thinking there had to be more to that than what the video title claimed. He jerked the hell out of that chain, though.

Maybe one of our cop buddies can explain...
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I watched the video. I know a little bit about K9 training and ops.

And this is bulls**t. If I'm the Chief, the officer is about to get an unpaid vacation; the dog will be assigned to a new partner who understands that the smart end of the leash is the one the dog's on; and when he comes back, me and him are going to have a long talk about what it means to be a K9 officer. Can he work his way back? Yes, eventually. We all make mistakes.

There is such a thing as a "hard correction", but it is reserved for over-aggressive dogs. I didn't see that here.

What hurts my heart here is that I know that dog will give his life to protect the other end of the leash. That's how they're trained.

There are three things that really set me off: Abuse of a child; the elderly; or an animal. They cannot defend themselves. That's where I come in.

Cop or not, this was wrong. He needs to be reset. Big time.

JMO.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Sometimes you do have to chuckle at what cops encounter.

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There will be those here....who either privately or on here will say "I would hit that."

Have at it, brother. Don't bother calling me when you wake up at 3am with that hottie sitting astride you...

With a chainsaw.

:eek:lol:
 
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