TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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evillawyer said:
Pray tell, have any of the lies, hypocrisy, insults, obvious mismanagement, etc. done anything to erode your support of him? If not, what would?
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This is the 13th President that I have lived under. I have failed to see a huge difference in my life through any of them.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Not talking about his smack talk....what has he messed up in your opinion
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Taxes (disproportionately benefits wealthy and corporations)

Doing everything he can to erode insurance coverage for poor Americans

Ensuring agency capture by appointing people like Pruitt

Appointing total hacks with zero relevant experience (DeVos and Carson)

Making lies the norm (what are we up to, like 3000 something?)

Eroding confidence in the media, the courts and DOJ/FBI

Destroying state department
 
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evillawyer said:
Taxes (disproportionately benefits wealthy and corporations)

Doing everything he can to erode insurance coverage for poor Americans

Ensuring agency capture by appointing people like Pruitt

Appointing total hacks with zero relevant experience (DeVos and Carson)

Making lies the norm (what are we up to, like 3000 something?)

Eroding confidence in the media, the courts and DOJ/FBI

Destroying state department
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Oh, woe is me......
 
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So back to my question, what would it take for you guys to say I won't vote for him again? What would it take for you to say I want him to resign/be impeached?
 
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evillawyer said:
Taxes (disproportionately benefits wealthy and corporations)

Doing everything he can to erode insurance coverage for poor Americans

Ensuring agency capture by appointing people like Pruitt

Appointing total hacks with zero relevant experience (DeVos and Carson)

Making lies the norm (what are we up to, like 3000 something?)

Eroding confidence in the media, the courts and DOJ/FBI

Destroying state department
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Which one of those has had the biggest impact on your life?
 
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evillawyer said:
So back to my question, what would it take for you guys to say I won't vote for him again? What would it take for you to say I want him to resign/be impeached?
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As much as I disliked Obama, I didn't want him removed from office, unless it was warranted by a serious crime. It isn't good for the country. I lived through the Nixon thing. Trump was elected fairly. Get over it.
 
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evillawyer said:
So back to my question, what would it take for you guys to say I won't vote for him again?

What would it take for you to say I want him to resign/be impeached?
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LOL impeach! Resign! Hillary didn't win boo hoo!

Try not to be a kook.
 
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DC_Vol said:
LOL impeach! Resign! Hillary didn't win boo hoo!

Try not to be a kook.
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It's a question you can ask about any president. What would it take for you to say enough, it's time to go?

For example, if HC had been elected and it was established that she had deliberately ordered the destruction of those emails to hide something of significance, I'd be 100% on the impeachment train for her.
 
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evillawyer said:
It's a question you can ask about any president. What would it take for you to say enough, it's time to go?

For example, if HC had been elected and it was established that she had deliberately ordered the destruction of those emails to hide something of significance, I'd be 100% on the impeachment train for her.
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But, think of how much better everyone's life would be today if Hillary was in charge.
 
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evillawyer said:
Pray tell, have any of the lies, hypocrisy, insults, obvious mismanagement, etc. done anything to erode your support of him? If not, what would?
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EL I’ve said many times I could care less what he says for the most part. You guys listen to him more than I do. And I also said I didn’t vote for him... but I will now. If for no other reason that I’ve absolutely HAD IT with your sides attempts at electoral nullification. THAT is the true evil in all this as far as I’m concerned.
 
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evillawyer said:
It's a question you can ask about any president. What would it take for you to say enough, it's time to go?

For example, if HC had been elected and it was established that she had deliberately ordered the destruction of those emails to hide something of significance, I'd be 100% on the impeachment train for her.
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I say we impeach Trump if ever stops making you liberals whine like school girls.

President Pence...that has a nice ring to it.
 
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evillawyer said:
So back to my question, what would it take for you guys to say I won't vote for him again? What would it take for you to say I want him to resign/be impeached?
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Show that he has broken the damn law worthy of impeachment in both houses of Congress dammit!

Knock off the damn foreplay on talking about the proof. Prove something dammit

Edit: and no I don’t give two flying ****s how many porn stars he banged before taking office!! As desperately as you guys really want that to matter!!

Edit2: and just reading your damn post once again wants me to vote for him more!! What will it take for us to come to your side and over rule the electorate! Move the hell on!
 
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DC_Vol said:
Some serious virtue signaling right here. Bravo.
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And the arrogant dip****s wonder why they lost.

I’m inclined to give EL a pass he has shown a streak of witty sarcasm. But when I read the “what’s it gonna take... “ tripe in this case I don’t know.
 
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evillawyer said:
It's a question you can ask about any president. What would it take for you to say enough, it's time to go?

For example, if HC had been elected and it was established that she had deliberately ordered the destruction of those emails to hide something of significance, I'd be 100% on the impeachment train for her.
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Ok I’m glad I’m reading this. I am going to assume you were just wanting to play “what if”.

So, again, if the proof is there and both houses impeach I’ll accept that. That is after all our process.

Also, don’t even try the republican controlled congress card with this president. They hate him as much as you guys do and you know it. They may in fact hate him more since they’ve gotta carry water for him.
 
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evillawyer said:
Taxes (disproportionately benefits wealthy and corporations)

Doing everything he can to erode insurance coverage for poor Americans

Ensuring agency capture by appointing people like Pruitt

Appointing total hacks with zero relevant experience (DeVos and Carson)

Making lies the norm (what are we up to, like 3000 something?)

Eroding confidence in the media, the courts and DOJ/FBI

Destroying state department
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1. It is not disproportionate and I like my tax break.....in fact I haven’t heard a single person complain about bringing home extra money.

2. That is absolutely not true.... the working poor already can’t afford insurance and get fined for not having it.

3.Name one negative effect that has happened from rolling back EPA regulations.

4. What is the negative effects on either of those two departments

5.politicians have lied since the beginning of time

6. They have eroding confidence themselves with their incompetence.

7.They put a hiring freeze which needed to happen in several areas of the government.... once again what negative is effects have occurred

These all seem like Democrat talking points with nothing substantial behind them.
 
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volbeast33 said:
1. It is not disproportionate and I like my tax break.....in fact I haven’t heard a single person complain about bringing home extra money.

2. That is absolutely not true.... the working poor already can’t afford insurance and get fined for not having it.

3.Name one negative effect that has happened from rolling back EPA regulations.

4. What is the negative effects on either of those two departments

5.politicians have lied since the beginning of time

6. They have eroding confidence themselves with their incompetence.

7.They put a hiring freeze which needed to happen in several areas of the government.... once again what negative is effects have occurred

These all seem like Democrat talking points with nothing substantial behind them.
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Thanks, saved me the time of answering each point. I agree.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Ok I’m glad I’m reading this. I am going to assume you were just wanting to play “what if”.

So, again, if the proof is there and both houses impeach I’ll accept that. That is after all our process.

Also, don’t even try the republican controlled congress card with this president. They hate him as much as you guys do and you know it. They may in fact hate him more since they’ve gotta carry water for him.
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We've actually drifted more into the impeachment territory than I wanted to go. That gets people too fired up. I'm more interested in "support," since it seems that for many on here whatever Trump does has no effect on your support for him. Although I'm a Dem, I'm pretty quick to withdraw support from them when I think it's warranted. Like I thought Menendez should have resigned (but not Al Franken). I was and am not a Hillary fan (who I think was two-faced and dishonest), but I voted for her as the lesser of two evils.

So I just want to know something really basic--when is it too much and you just say no more? I could care less about who he banged (assuming he/she is of age)--and I've said that before--but I do think it's serious if he knowingly conspired to violate campaign finance laws. I also think it's serious if, for example, he's been laundering money (NY Times story this weekend on lots of all cash transactions where he had previously relied largely on debt, which is very unusual) or engaged in other felonies in his business dealings or colluded with Russia or obstructed justice.

I know as a Dem, my threshold will be different than yours (the anti-immigrant stuff is what initially got him on my bad side), but I really do want to know when you will say the lies, incompetency, misogyny, xenophobia, etc. is too much.
 
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