Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

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NorthDallas40 said:
You’re full of it. If there was anything in this kids past you guys would have completed the character assassination by now just like you did the Haab kid.
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And because this kid is polar opposite of Hogg and has been touting his pro 2A stance, you know good and damn well that the libbies would have already done everything they could to throw this kid under the bus if there were any past concerning issues.

Fact is, they haven't...until...he posts videos of him exercising his 2A rights with his father. SUDDENLY, he's a threat. This was a railroad attempt; nothing else.
 
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hndog609 said:
So now you're doubling down on being wrong by making an assertion of knowing how common something is that you didn't know was happening at all?
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Yep. If you're truly motivated to portray me as ignorant, then provide the data on how common is the practice.

I will concede this; however common the practice is today, it will be more common tomorrow.
 
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luthervol said:
Yep. If you're truly motivated to portray me as ignorant, then provide the data on how common is the practice.

I will concede this; however common the practice is today, it will be more common tomorrow.
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You were conclusively proven ignorant when you said such things don't take place. Absolutely proven wrong.

You were conclusively proven intellectually disingenuous by pulling a number out of your knickers about how common something is/isn't that mere minutes before you said wasn't happening at all. This is D4H level shenanigans.

I agree to your last statement. Interestingly it was pretty much this very issue that prompted your incorrect assertion to LouderVol I addressed.
 
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luthervol said:
The schools don't patrol social media, they hear about it from other students and parents. Schools get multiple calls a day from parents and students about things posted on social media.
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hndog609 said:
You were conclusively proven ignorant when you said such things don't take place. Absolutely proven wrong.

You were conclusively proven intellectually disingenuous by pulling a number out of your knickers about how common something is/isn't that mere minutes before you said wasn't happening at all. This is D4H level shenanigans.

I agree to your last statement. Interestingly it was pretty much this very issue that prompted your incorrect assertion to LouderVol I addressed.
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You seem almost giddy.

The vast majority of schools don't patrol social media. Even the example you gave isn't of a school patrolling social media. It's of a district paying an outside vendor to search for key words and phrases.

If this warrants a victory lap in your eyes, knock yourself out. You kind of look like the d-lineman celebrating a tackle after a 5 yard gain on third and 3.
 
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Oh the school isn’t doing it they’re paying somebody else to do it for them? Ok that’s totally different that’s obviously ok. Thanks for the clarification. 🙄😳
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Oh the school isn’t doing it they’re paying somebody else to do it for them? Ok that’s totally different that’s obviously ok. Thanks for the clarification. 🙄😳
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Are you saying you think it's wrong? Schools don't have the time or resources to patrol social media. If they can pay an outside vendor, why not? I still view it as unnecessary because parents and students provide a pretty complete filter.
 
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luthervol said:
You seem almost giddy.

The vast majority of schools don't patrol social media. Even the example you gave isn't of a school patrolling social media. It's of a district paying an outside vendor to search for key words and phrases.

If this warrants a victory lap in your eyes, knock yourself out. You kind of look like the d-lineman celebrating a tackle after a 5 yard gain on third and 3.
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Interesting take. You made an assertion to LouderVol that was shown to be demonstrably wrong. If you had simply said "Huh...it appears at least some schools are in fact starting to engage in such practices." it probably would have become a discussion of the practice itself. Instead you D4H'd it and here we are. No giddiness required.
 
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luthervol said:
Education 101......kids lie, distort, and twist.....and yet they're still the best source of information.
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luthervol said:
Based on the kid's account, the school handled it poorly. BUT, we have absolutely ZERO knowledge about the kid's past behaviors and comments to students. If this kid was a model student with no history, then the school over reacted and the individuals involved should be dealt with. If the student has any type of history or past that adds to the equation, then the school and officers may have reacted appropriately.
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luthervol said:
How in the world did you get that out of anything that I said?
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you seem pretty dismissive.
 
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luthervol said:
Are you saying you think it's wrong? Schools don't have the time or resources to patrol social media. If they can pay an outside vendor, why not? I still view it as unnecessary because parents and students provide a pretty complete filter.
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totally D4H'ing it.

Here's what I said, I absolutely stand by it.
*shown its wrong*
No, that's not what I meant. I obviously meant this very nuanced and contradictory statement, when I made an absolute statement.

keep hold of Kamara.
 
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hndog609 said:
Interesting take. You made an assertion to LouderVol that was shown to be demonstrably wrong. If you had simply said "Huh...it appears at least some schools are in fact starting to engage in such practices." it probably would have become a discussion of the practice itself. Instead you D4H'd it and here we are. No giddiness required.
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I get where you're coming from. Good tackle by the way. 1st and ten.
 
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LouderVol said:
totally D4H'ing it.

Here's what I said, I absolutely stand by it.
*shown its wrong*
No, that's not what I meant. I obviously meant this very nuanced and contradictory statement, when I made an absolute statement.

keep hold of Kamara.
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???? I honestly have no clue what you're taking about.

Schools monitoring social media would be wrong?

Schools paying to have social media monitored would be wrong?

Schools receiving reports from students and parents about social media is wrong?
 
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luthervol said:
A student should not post anything on social media showing him armed and shooting a gun unless he WANTS to be called in and questioned. Plus, he was told repeatedly that he had done nothing wrong.

I think all students are aware that in today's climate, posting gun activity on social media is a guaranteed ticket to visit the resource officer.
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And this is the new face of tyranny. Learn it, know it, fight it when you can.
 
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Mick said:
Do you condone a student making a political statement about the 2A? You do this time right? Besides the cops were completely justified in following up on an issue that was seen as threatening by other students. Determining if it was or wasn't is their job.

Not that you would know anything about it.
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Did said student infringe on the property rights of others? If not, then it is a non-issue.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Take the next logical step in that thought process...
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Are you saying parents and students should not be allowed to report things they have seen on social media that they feel needs to be reported?

The next logical step will be a list or guideline outlining what is and is not acceptable for students to post (already getting there - shooting an AR15 may be making it onto the list). Sort of like dress codes or language within the school building.
 
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luthervol said:
Are you saying parents and students should not be allowed to report things they have seen on social media that they feel needs to be reported?

The next logical step will be a list or guideline outlining what is and is not acceptable for students to post (already getting there - shooting an AR15 may be making it onto the list). Sort of like dress codes or language within the school building.
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Not if they’re liberal.
 
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luthervol said:
Are you saying parents and students should not be allowed to report things they have seen on social media that they feel needs to be reported?

The next logical step will be a list or guideline outlining what is and is not acceptable for students to post (already getting there - shooting an AR15 may be making it onto the list). Sort of like dress codes or language within the school building.
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So you believe a school system has the right to infringe upon someone's 1A rights because they post something you do not agree with, even though what was posted is not illegal? Got it.
 
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