Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

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luthervol said:
Overreact much? No one said they can't post it on social media, only that there was a consequence.

There are plenty of things you are free to say (or post on social media) but many of those things have consequences. Freak occasionally bans people from this site, is that a violation of 1a?
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If his employer wants to fire him over his social media posts, fine I'm perfectly ok with that. This is a public school and law enforcement, they need to mind their own business.
 
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hog88 said:
Yep, you are a kneeler. It's not the schools business what happens off school grounds and after school hours.
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It is 100% the school's business to work to ensure the safety of the students and respond to complaints/concerns voiced by other students and their parents.
 
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LouderVol said:
depends on what was reported to the officers. enough kids freak out and ask for someone to be looked into, after what has happened there, they should. doesn't mean they need to treat him as they did. Could have a been a friendly chat imo. kid should have had some type of representation with 3 cops tho.

idk, my high school did stuff like this. called my parents in when I had some cuts on my arm, cleared a briar patch, talked with the counselor after they heard I had a fight with my sister. stuff like that, it was all like 5 minute conversations and nothing accusatory. which is why I have the issue with the tone.
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Wow, they would have gotten a big piss off not only from me.
 
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hog88 said:
If his employer wants to fire him over his social media posts, fine I'm perfectly ok with that. This is a public school and law enforcement, they need to mind their own business.
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Are you insane? Their business is the safety of all the students.
 
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hog88 said:
Wow, they would have gotten a big piss off not only from me.
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I wish the kid would have simply stated he felt threatened and demanded they contact his parents. That should have been the end of it, and if it wasn’t the end then a civil suit should be filed ASAP.
 
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luthervol said:
Overreact much? No one said they can't post it on social media, only that there was a consequence.

There are plenty of things you are free to say (or post on social media) but many of those things have consequences. Freak occasionally bans people from this site, is that a violation of 1a?
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Officers and public schools are state funded and fall under that umbrella. 1a exists to prevent persecution by the government for speech that does not infringe on someone else's life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. A social media post falls under that protection and as zero threats were made and he was exercising his 2a, the questioning should not happen.

If Best Buy wanted to fire him for it, that's fine.
 
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hog88 said:
No it's not. The kid was doing absolutely nothing threatening.
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Posting images of shooting an AR15 is going to be viewed as threatening by many students and their parents. That' just the way it is.

Go ahead and post; just know that you will be called in for a "discussion".
 
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luthervol said:
Posting images of shooting an AR15 is going to be viewed as threatening by many students and their parents. That' just the way it is.

Go ahead and post; just know that you will be called in for a "discussion".
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So why was the kid bushwhacked instead of calling his parents into the “discussion” also? Is this how you “discuss” things with kids in your schools too? Call in LEOs, three of them, and then brow beat the kid in isolation?
 
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luthervol said:
Posting images of shooting an AR15 is going to be viewed as threatening by many students and their parents. That' just the way it is.

Go ahead and post; just know that you will be called in for a "discussion".
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Then the officer and administration should have viewed the posts and told those that complained they were overreacting. Feelings don't matter.
 
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luthervol said:
A student should not post anything on social media showing him armed and shooting a gun unless he WANTS to be called in and questioned. Plus, he was told repeatedly that he had done nothing wrong.

I think all students are aware that in today's climate, posting gun activity on social media is a guaranteed ticket to visit the resource officer.
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Do all liberals live in a constant state of fear?
 
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utvols88 said:
And if the school determined Muslims celebrating a Muslim holiday on Facebook is threatening, then what? Theres a reason 1a and 2a exist and it's not to just protect vagina hats.
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No no no..can't upset the Muslims..off limits..even though they commit 99% of terrorism we don't want to offend them..
 
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hog88 said:
Their business is to educate kids, I might agree with you if the kid posted something remotely threatening but he didn't.
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Whether or not something is threatening is in the eye of the beholder. A KID/STUDENT shooting an AR15 is seen as threatening in today's world. THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
So why was the kid bushwhacked instead of calling his parents into the “discussion” also? Is this how you “discuss” things with kids in your schools too? Call in LEOs, three of them, and then brow beat the kid in isolation?
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Based on the kid's account, the school handled it poorly. BUT, we have absolutely ZERO knowledge about the kid's past behaviors and comments to students. If this kid was a model student with no history, then the school over reacted and the individuals involved should be dealt with. If the student has any type of history or past that adds to the equation, then the school and officers may have reacted appropriately.
 
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luthervol said:
Based on the kid's account, the school handled it poorly. BUT, we have absolutely ZERO knowledge about the kid's past behaviors and comments to students. If this kid was a model student with no history, then the school over reacted and the individuals involved should be dealt with. If the student has any type of history or past that adds to the equation, then the school and officers may have reacted appropriately.
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I'm under the extremely strong impression that if a pro 2A student from that school had any negative baggage to air the anti's would have a whole youtube channel about it by now.
 
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luthervol said:
Based on the kid's account, the school handled it poorly. BUT, we have absolutely ZERO knowledge about the kid's past behaviors and comments to students. If this kid was a model student with no history, then the school over reacted and the individuals involved should be dealt with. If the student has any type of history or past that adds to the equation, then the school and officers may have reacted appropriately.
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The BCSO was given the opportunity to comment and has thus far declined. The schools opinion is irrelevant as they were apparently not present. Thus the only word we have is the kids. And frankly we also have plenty of history with BCSO. I guess kids with guns are beyond their courage level but one kid cornered in a room outnumbered 3 to 1 and with no gun fits their wheel house.
 
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