Pruitt not happy with Spring Game attendance

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114VOL said:
So the fan who thinks Pruitt shouldn't be calling out the fans is a sissy?

Our society has simply lost its ability to reason
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I was not singling anyone out. Generalizing from the drift of the thread with a loosely connected observation on what I see as a societal trend in today's youth. My apologies if you were offended.
 
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I don't care what he says about the fans or even if he insulted me directly. If he wins, he wins.

Michael Jordan is currently the greatest basketball player to have ever played and was a huge hit with kids but he is an ****ole.

Sometimes you can't have the best of both worlds.
 
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BloomuVol said:
Sorry, I guess I just don't get the apathy that people like you have, I would love to live close enough to go to every spring game or event, my son and I love Tennessee football and watch any of it we can, I could never imagine being so jaded by it to go golfing instead of going to the spring game, but then again I'm the guy that listens to the radio broadcast of games while driving to my son's football games so I don't miss one. I'm also the guy that stayed up until 4 am in Iraq just to watch the 09 TN v. Bama game with a mission to prepare for in a few hours.
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A real fan would have made the drive. You obviously don’t care enough.
 
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BloomuVol said:
Sorry, I guess I just don't get the apathy that people like you have, I would love to live close enough to go to every spring game or event, my son and I love Tennessee football and watch any of it we can, I could never imagine being so jaded by it to go golfing instead of going to the spring game, but then again I'm the guy that listens to the radio broadcast of games while driving to my son's football games so I don't miss one. I'm also the guy that stayed up until 4 am in Iraq just to watch the 09 TN v. Bama game with a mission to prepare for in a few hours.
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Amen, brother. You and me both. Very well said.
 
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FleeceItOut said:
A real fan would have made the drive. You obviously don’t care enough.
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Because I am a student, in school, with assignments and two children to take care of, but again I said if I had the money, I would have went, I still watched with my son on tv. The point was, that if you lived close enough and could have went you should have just like coach Pruitt said. He did say some fans weren't there for good reason and some weren't and had no good reason, it's the ones with no good reason and that didn't go that he was talking to.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
But 65,000 out of 102,455 is 63%. By the standards of excellence, it's a mediocre result. For instance: if we win 63% of our games, that's an 8-win regular season.

So are we striving for excellence, or pretty good? I'm pretty happy CJP is aiming for excellence in every aspect of the program.

Those who are sensitive to criticism will get over it, and will be among us in celebrating championships, one day.
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Bama won the NC and had 74K which is where he came from. No one filled their stadium. You are compared at the end of the year by where you finish. We finished 5th in the nation so that is not piss pour 4-8. I thought 7 wins next year but since he wants us all to achieve excellence then he needs to as well. 15-0 or you suck and have a lack of effort CJP.
 
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Lookit, I like Pruitt's frank speech about the state of the team. It is clear that he has high standards and expects players to work for them. But the comments seemed borderline nutty. Criticizing a fan base which showed up third in SEC and fifth in the entire nation for spring games attendance, after ten tortuous years of showing up for one disappointment after another, seems disconnected from reality and a little worrisome.
 
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BloomuVol said:
Sorry, I guess I just don't get the apathy that people like you have, I would love to live close enough to go to every spring game or event, my son and I love Tennessee football and watch any of it we can, I could never imagine being so jaded by it to go golfing instead of going to the spring game, but then again I'm the guy that listens to the radio broadcast of games while driving to my son's football games so I don't miss one. I'm also the guy that stayed up until 4 am in Iraq just to watch the 09 TN v. Bama game with a mission to prepare for in a few hours.
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Jaded by it? I live 175 miles away. I am an alumnus. I was an athlete in another sport there. I competed in SEC championships for the University. I am a Vol letter man. I've given monetarily to the University AND athletic departments. I've stayed for games in all kinds of inclement weather. I've been all over the United States to not just football games, but other athletic events as well. I listened to every game on the radio while growing up in the state.

Sorry, but you literally have no f'ing clue as to what you're talking about
 
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I have a question for everybody, if we want a coach that expects to win every game, why wouldn't he also expect the fans to fill the stadium every chance we get? He has said since the beginning that he wants to win everygame the players play, that is high expectations for a team, shpuldnt that same coach have high expectations of the fan base?
And let's quit with the "last ten years", it doesn't mean s#it. He doesn't owe you anything for your past fandom, just like we don't owe him unfettered support just because of his past, we both have to earn it by showing up and winning, in the stands and on the field.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I haven't complained any about Pruitt. Seems like we are getting back on track.

I just don't think he needed to remind our fan base about support. The one who Oregon fans said showed up the most. The one who routinely sells out their allotment to away games. The one who nearly sold out 102k to LSU for an interim coach. The one who redirected a coaching search. We don't need to be reminded about a spring game, especially when the crowd was different than the last 20 years.
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So complacency is ok? You don’t want to be the best fanbase ? You want our coach to expect less and accept excuses?
 
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114VOL said:
Jaded by it? I live 175 miles away. I am an alumnus. I was an athlete in another sport there. I competed in SEC championships for the University. I am a Vol letter man. I've given monetarily to the University AND athletic departments. I've stayed for games in all kinds of inclement weather. I've been all over the United States to not just football games, but other athletic events as well. I listened to every game on the radio while growing up in the state.

Sorry, but you literally have no f'ing clue as to what you're talking about
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And yet after all that you still went ducking golfing?
 
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BloomuVol said:
I have a question for everybody, if we want a coach that expects to win every game, why wouldn't he also expect the fans to fill the stadium every chance we get? He has said since the beginning that he wants to win everygame the players play, that is high expectations for a team, shpuldnt that same coach have high expectations of the fan base?
And let's quit with the "last ten years", it doesn't mean s#it. He doesn't owe you anything for your past fandom, just like we don't owe him unfettered support just because of his past, we both have to earn it by showing up and winning, in the stands and on the field.
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Exactly.
 
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2018 Spring Game attendance (FINAL)

86,818 - Nebraska
82,184 - UGA
74,732 - Alabama
71,000 - PSU
65,098 - Tennessee
60,934 - FSU
55,000 - Clemson
53,015 - UF
52,102 - OU
48,000 - A&M
47,803 - Ohio St
36,814 - VA Tech
36,090 - Kentucky
31,751 - ND
28,033 - Auburn
25,500 - SCar
 
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Vol Main said:
Lookit, I like Pruitt's frank speech about the state of the team. It is clear that he has high standards and expects players to work for them. But the comments seemed borderline nutty. Criticizing a fan base which showed up third in SEC and fifth in the entire nation for spring games attendance, after ten tortuous years of showing up for one disappointment after another, seems disconnected from reality and a little worrisome.
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Is it borderline nutty when Nick Saban is angry about a 40 to 0 win?
 
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Iam4utalways said:
So the ones that did show up earned a pass for the ones that didn't.

If we only finish 5th due to poor coaching, CJP will be called out. Just like he is being called out for answering a question about fan attendance.

I don't understand the problem fans have for being called out for not attending when they could have attended.

Sure it's a major hassle going to the games. Just another price we pay as fans.
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I go to actual games and pay almost 1000 dollars every time I do. I didn't to to O and W game and don't care what he thinks. I spent the time with my son and watching him play ball. Tennessee will still be playing way after the time he is not. If he finishes 5th in the country this year regardless of what his on field decisions are, we will be celebrating the man and just being pissed at the committee for their bias against Tennessee. He should've just thank the one's who showed up and told us to fill the place when ETSU comes to town.
 
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OrangeSoddyDaisy said:
Hey Coach,

Some free advice from somebody who's been around a long time.

1 Don't every look into the stands to see how many are there. You might miss something happening on the field that needs your attention. This is a tough league and the details are on the field, not in the bleachers.

2 Win and we will support you. Criticizing fans will not help you win. Don't forget that you make more in a month than 90% of the over 100,000 lifelong fans who'll be there at the first home game. Be respectful of those who chose to work so they might contribute to your paycheck by being able to afford to be there this Fall.
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He wrote that info down. Spoken like a true little league coach.

I'm kidding btw.
 
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BloomuVol said:
I have a question for everybody, if we want a coach that expects to win every game, why wouldn't he also expect the fans to fill the stadium every chance we get? He has said since the beginning that he wants to win everygame the players play, that is high expectations for a team, shpuldnt that same coach have high expectations of the fan base?
And let's quit with the "last ten years", it doesn't mean s#it. He doesn't owe you anything for your past fandom, just like we don't owe him unfettered support just because of his past, we both have to earn it by showing up and winning, in the stands and on the field.
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He has NO PAST. This is his first head coaching gig. It was a "rookie" mistake he made yesterday with that stupid comment.

We, as fans, don't have to earn anything. I've "earned" my ass off so I can go to a few games a year and support our student athletes.
 
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JacketVol said:
Bama won the NC and had 74K which is where he came from. No one filled their stadium. You are compared at the end of the year by where you finish. We finished 5th in the nation so that is not piss pour 4-8. I thought 7 wins next year but since he wants us all to achieve excellence then he needs to as well. 15-0 or you suck and have a lack of effort CJP.
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Okay, so let's play that out with slightly better granularity than you just provided.

Here are some various results and how they compare, fan attendance to regular season wins.

> 11-1 regular season (92%) == 93,917 fans in Neyland.

If we'd had 94k fans in Neyland yesterday (entire lower bowl packed, upper stands 3/4 full) I think CJP would've been ecstatic. And we fans would be ecstatic with an 11-1 finish.

> 9-3 regular season (75%) == 76,841 fans in Neyland.

So roughly 10k more than we had yesterday. Respectable, but not excellence. Just as we in VN.com were pointing out over the past two years that a 9-3 season is, while an improvement, not championship caliber. So, a step forward...but not the goal.

> 7-5 regular season (58%) == 59,765 fans in Neyland.

A 7-5 season sure beats the abysmal 4-8 we just lived through, but it's is nonetheless completely unacceptable for a storied program like ours. No one would be happy with it. Just as no one should be happy with less than 60,000 fans in Neyland. Ever. Even when it's a scrimmage.

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This apples-and-oranges thought exercise isn't really useful for much, but it does highlight the difference between excellence, acceptableness, and mediocrity.

What CJP is looking for (and we demand that he does) is excellence. What we got yesterday, from both the players and the fans, was somewhere between acceptable and mediocre. And no one should be happy with either.

Think that's all he was saying. And I think he was right to make the observation.

Go Vols!
 
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