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butchna said:
Hogan has STARTED a game in two seasons for two different franchises. To categorize him as a STARTER is dishonest at best. Put Tyler Bray on the Browns roster and he’d be in that same elite status.
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Tyler Bray has never completed a pass in his nfl career. Idc what roster he’s on he’s not better than someone who has started and played in multiple games.
 
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HankHill said:
Tyler Bray has never completed a pass in his nfl career. Idc what roster he’s on he’s not better than someone who has started and played in multiple games.
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Hogan has started A GAME and was cut by the Chiefs...they kept Bray.
 
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Because I feel like living in fantasy land.. I'll go ahead and give some kool-aid induced reasons why we win, as well as realistic reasons we lose each of our games this year (unless those reasons don't exist, like they won't against four of our opponents come fall).

(N) WVU:

Reasons we win: Their DL depth, and secondary depth, according to their fans on /r/cfb. We should be fully healthy, and most of our players have significant game experience. If we control the LOS, and CDJ gets our WR's actually able to complete a route that's complementary to JG/Chryst's capabilities as a passer, we could very well surprise.

Reasons we lose: Will Grier remembers 2015 and plays with confidence against our piecemeal secondary. Big XII schools can fling it, and if we can't get pressure and it leads to splash plays for them on offense, it obviously won't bode well.

Because I'm feeling saucy and I want to believe, I say we shock Vegas and make some ballsy bettors happy. W 1-0 (0-0)

(H) ETSU:

Reasons we win: Because FCS. Also, we want their athletic program to succeed for sentimental purposes, so we do them the honor of never letting them have a hope, thus to spare their hopes.

Reasons we lose: 0

W 2-0 (0-0)

(H) UTEP:

Reasons we win: They drink less water because it all tastes like oil out there. The healthier team will win.

Reasons we lose: Because Kiffin drank some polyjuice potion (that's a Harry Potter reference, never thought I'd do that) and he wanted to troll the Tennessee fanbase in the most admittedly epic way possible.

W 3-0 (0-0)

(H) Florida:

Reasons we win: Franks and Trask can't quite stitch it together in time for their first real test (I mean, they play Kentucky and Colorado State, but we are their first away game). A true line of scrimmage game, our OL will remain upbeat and unbeaten and give JG/Chryst enough, maybe not many, but enough, chances to get the ball to the open guy. Mother London serves as a wrecking ball gaining an impressive 3.5 ypc, opening up the way for Chandler to gash them at least once for a home run.

Reasons we lose: Because I'm severely underestimating their trenches and overestimating our own. Mullen has talent to work with, and sadly it's only a matter of time before some of this talent serves to be better than mediocre.

We ride in confidently after a solid win and a couple of cupcakes to tweak things. It does take time for QB's to come around.. right? W 4-0 (1-0) Ranked 22-25 range

(A) Georgia:

Reasons we win: Maybe Their games AT South Carolina and AT Mizzou the weeks previous will expose some holes for our coordinators to work with. Maybe our front seven play out of their minds for 60 minutes and it's raining and they fumble a lot. Who knows.

Reasons we lose: They're really, really good. We'll hopefully be there by 2020.

L 4-1 (1-1) Drop out of the top 25 but still receiving votes.

(H) BYE:

Reasons we win: Time to work and reflect after a two-score drubbing in Athens. Standard wearing down over the course of the season has begun and we utilize the time to rehab and focus. We're freaking stoked still after our fourth quarter domination against Florida and the campus is buzzing.

Reasons we lose: Coaches don't lose bye weeks in their first seasons.

(A) Auburn:

Reasons we win: Auburn has lost their two fastest WR's to injury already, which really sucks for the players and the team, but let's not pretend their passing game will be at its best. At least for them, some of the younger receivers get more reps early, if there is a silver lining to that situation.. They also no longer have Kerryon Johnson, and they just gave Malzahn a contract extension. They won't have had their bye week yet, us being their seventh straight opponent (Washington, LSU, Arkansas, and @State right before us). Maybe we come out focused and ready to surprise a 4-2 20th ranked Tigers squad.

Reasons we lose: Because their defense should still be reliable at the very least, and our OL ain't total world-beaters yet. Who knows, but this is the more realistic result.

We play a respectable game and lose by 10. At least everyone can agree on Eff Bama. We still receive votes in the polls due to the watchability of our play, but very few in each one. L 4-2 (1-2)

(H) Alabama:

Reasons we win: Pruitt knows secret trapdoor beartrap "betcha didn't think I knew about this" type stuff about their offense. Our defense drinks some of Michael's Secret Stuff (Space Jam reference) at halftime and wins a miracle.

Reasons we lose: They're also really, really good. Like better than Georgia good.

L 4-3 (1-3) The streak increases to 12 and to 57-38-7 in Alabama's favor as we lose a defensive struggle 23-13. Fans of every fanbase outside of Tennessee and Alabama (the ones that don't get it) continue to publicly wonder if TSIO is still a rivalry.

(A) South Carolina:

Reasons we win: Apparently their WR's didn't perform all that well in the spring game today. Young QB who may be a prime candidate for the dreaded sophomore slump. It doesn't mean he's a bad player or that he won't still develop into a great QB, it just happens sometimes. We really see Tennessee kids leading the way on our squad as Trey Smith, Ty Chandler, and newcomers Greg Emerson and Alontae Taylor begin to make their presence known.

Reasons we lose: Carolina's defense holds its water, creating problems for our young RB's and OL. And young Jake Bentley doesn't suffer the sophomore slump, taking advantage of some unfortunate holes in our secondary. We trade them punch for punch, but it's just not enough coming against USC coming off a bye week.

I like the first option better, even if it is just wishful thinking. Our defense gets a clutch score to seal the deal in a tough atmosphere. Carolina comes into the game with losses to Georgia and A&M, and losing to a yet-again-rebuilding Tennessee signals a tough stretch in a season that brings Carolina a little back down to earth. W 5-3 (2-3) Ranked 25th or just outside the top 25

(H) Charlotte:

Reasons we win: Y not tho?

Reasons we lose: 0

W 6-3 (2-3) Ranked 25th or just outside the top 25

(H) Kentucky:

Reasons we win: Sorry Kentucky fans, we're still talking football. Stoops is solid, but not spectacular, we're still objectively more talented than them. Even with some vulnerabilities in a spot here or there, I think our staff is smart enough to compensate for them.. smarter than Stoops & Co. Plus they're replacing a QB, and they'll be nice and worn out from Georgia the week before.

Reasons we lose: Well all my predictions to this point would likely be wrong as well. In this alternate reality, we're 3-6 overall (beating either WVU or UF) and still not even able to compete with middling SECE teams. Which, realistically I'd say is below my expectations.

So I say we win. That's my hunch. W 7-3 (3-3) Ranked in the 22-25 range.

(H) Mizzou:

Reasons we win: Our secondary becomes a strength under a defensive head coach whose specialty is the secondary. Dooley's Wikipedia offense gets trolled by VolTwitter and VolNation before the game and we change all passing plays to "Interception". Our linemen, offensive and defensive, feel rejuvinated after three straight victories.

Reasons we lose: Drew Lock is really making strides under Dooley, who let's face it, was an excellent passing game coach. They exploit some defects in our backfield, and it's enough to win the game. Odom's defensive front thrives in year 3, and is simply too much for our depleted offensive line to keep up with. JG/Chryst have a rough game in the cold and rain.

Like Kentucky, we're objectively more talented, and I think our coaching talent is better. I do consider them more dangerous than Kentucky, but come on, I can't have us beating Carolina, Florida, and West Virginia and then say we lose to Missouri.
W 8-3 (4-3) Rising in the rankings as other P5 teams lose crucial conference games and select G5's losing their first or second, 16-19 range.

(A) Vanderbilt:

Reasons we win: Because Phil won't let us lose to Kentucky or Vanderbilt under his watch. And who knows what to make of Derek Mason at this point.. I wouldn't be surprised if they fire him midseason. Needless to say, our defense rolls over their non-existent offense, and our offense runs. the. ball. Madre runs for two TD's in a powerful display.

Reasons we lose: Vandy hits the gym more than they hit the books for a week. Our OL is still banged up and Mason is a defensive coach. Plus we're they're yearly Super Bowl, evidenced by last year.

Even realistically, I can't see us losing to Vanderbilt this year, or hopefully any year in the future. W 9-3 (5-3) After a solid body of work the Playoff Committee ranks us 13th in the country.

We wind up 2nd in the division, with the tie-breaker against Florida. Georgia again meets Alabama in the SECCG where Georgia wins and everyone else in the country starts to see how obnoxious their fans can be. Alabama still makes it into the CFP, and in a twist of irony, are scheduled for a rematch as Georgia is #1. Georgia again beats Alabama, and Saban announces his retirement among the falling tickertape. Georgia then loses in the Championship game to Washington, as Jacob Eason gets the last laugh. Alabama has fallen, and Georgia still hasn't won another championship.

Tennessee stirs enough intrigue with the strong finish to land a spot in the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl against Penn State. Pruitt excorcises another demon, beating James Franklin and putting some respeck on our name. This propels us to a top-5 recruiting class and we kick Clemson and LSU out of the state.

I spent way too much time writing all this, but it was worth it.
 
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Billy Antrim said:
I think his pouting act while QD played alienated a lot of fans. All of that will be forgotten when he leads the team to a bunch of wins.
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I was one who was put off by his demeanor that game. In retrospect, however, I’m giving all the players a pass on last season as it was such a disaster in every possible way. I think Butch created such a toxic environment that affected players in ways we won’t be able to fully comprehend unless someone comes out and wants to air the dirty laundry in public.

Last year you could just sense from the very beginning, something just wasn’t right with the team. I think the players lost their TRUST in Butch Jones, and it grew progressively worse as the season went along. When the players don’t trust their coach, it’s going to get ugly. My hope is this staff is building a very high level of trust with the players which will lead to a much improved 2018 team.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
Most of us just want the best QB to play. We don’t care if it’s JG, Chryst or a walk on.
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This but They always turn it into hero vs villian. They are so offended that we would rather risk going into the season with JG/Chryst as top 2 QBs instead of JG/McBride. Makes no sense. I don't give 2 craps who wins the battle.
 
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Big151Orange said:
I was one who was put off by his demeanor that game. In retrospect, however, I’m giving all the players a pass on last season as it was such a disaster in every possible way. I think Butch created such a toxic environment that affected players in ways we won’t be able to fully comprehend unless someone comes out and wants to air the dirty laundry in public.

Last year you could just sense from the very beginning, something just wasn’t right with the team. I think the players lost their TRUST in Butch Jones, and it grew progressively worse as the season went along. When the players don’t trust their coach, it’s going to get ugly. My hope is this staff is building a very high level of trust with the players which will lead to a much improved 2018 team.
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I think he lost trust in the team towards the end of the 2016 season and he never earned it back before last season.
 
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HankHill said:
Having two NFL starters in a short span is impressive. Hogan was very good at Stanford. Tyler bray has been in the league for years and never even earned a true 2nd string roll. So yes i would clearly put hogan over both of them considering he started multiple games and actually played decent in a couple.
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That does not make it a QB factory.
 
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HankHill said:
There is so little difference in a 5-7 or a 7-5 team so many times. Hopefully we catch a couple breaks and stay pretty healthy.
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How we starting to look physically? Tired of seeing flab on some of these guys. Ready to start seeing guys who look like they're cut out of stone.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
JG improving is good. Dumb fans saying he’s a bad QB are DUMB. Kid didn’t turn the ball over in a terrible offense. Has all the tools to run this system to the max. They are wanting Keller Chryst a second string QB at Stanford to take over. Smh Outside of Andrew Luck what good QB has come from there lately? Their RBs run that offense. QBs are game managers at the max.
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Chryst is here as insurance IMO. They don’t want to trot out McBride or Shrout if our OL gets JG killed.
 
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vol2002 said:
If we go 9-3 this year I will give everyone on this board $100.
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