Kahlil declares for draft

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82_VOL_83 said:
At the time of his hiring, CJP was the best thing for UT Football. Part of his coming here was that he be able to finish his job at Bama. Given that, you are saying that CJP should not have been hired and that we should have continued to look?
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I am saying Fulmer failed in his negotiations and Pruiit holds too little respect for this job.
 
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November Blue said:
I bet you he could have been working on building relationships with them. He should have spent 15 minutes a day talking to every single draft worthy Junior.
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How do you know he didn’t? Cellphones brah! :cool2:
 
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allvol123 said:
I am saying Fulmer failed in his negotiations and Pruiit holds too little respect for this job.
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Pruitt staying was most likely non-negotiable and you know nothing about the respect Pruitt has for this job other than your own opinion.
 
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allvol123 said:
The lemmings will come after you.

Apparently the best thing for UT football was for our coach to be part time.
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Like Chip Kelly? Supposed homerun hire was covering bowls instead of on campus. On his last broadcast, actually stated “we START recruiting on Jan 8”! Class has plummeted and he was hired a month before Pruitt...and he “failed to recruit” Rosen to stay. :)
 
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butchna said:
Like Chip Kelly? Supposed homerun hire was covering bowls instead of on campus. On his last broadcast, actually stated “we START recruiting on Jan 8”! Class has plummeted and he was hired a month before Pruitt...and he “failed to recruit” Rosen to stay. :)
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Good job responding to nothing I ever said there.
 
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Vince Wilfork Stats - In his thirteen year career - these are his numbers:

Career:
Games Played 189
Games Started: 179
Interceptions: 3 for 48 yards
TD0
Lng28
Passes Defended: 24
Forced Fumbles: 5
Fumble Recoveries (by player or team): 12 for 2 yards returned
TDs: 1
Sacks: 16.0
Tackles: 370
Assisted: 195

Averaging:
1.9 Tackles per game (total)
.08 Sacks per game
11 games per sack
1.23 Sack per season
28 Sacks Per Season
 
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allvol123 said:
Everything is negotiable unless you suck at what you're doing.

I know what Pruiit chose, so I know plenty.
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What exactly did Pruitt choose? What were the negotiations? How much did Fulmer offer $$ wise that got turned down because he wanted to finish what he started. Start dancing brah cause you got nothing but straw.
 
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HearForGrumors said:
Vince Wilfork Stats - In his thirteen year career - these are his numbers:

Career:
Games Played 189
Games Started: 179
Interceptions: 3 for 48 yards
TD0
Lng28
Passes Defended: 24
Forced Fumbles: 5
Fumble Recoveries (by player or team): 12 for 2 yards returned
TDs: 1
Sacks: 16.0
Tackles: 370
Assisted: 195

Averaging:
1.9 Tackles per game (total)
.08 Sacks per game
11 games per sack
1.23 Sack per season
28 Sacks Per Season
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Seriously comparing KMac to Wilfork?
 
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allvol123 said:
Good job responding to nothing I ever said there.
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You assume too much...delicate lamb. Was giving popular example of a hire that would have placated many on here who hasn’t done very well for the DEDICATED time available. :hi:
 
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butchna said:
You assume too much...delicate lamb. Was giving popular example of a hire that would have placated many on here who hasn’t done very well for the DEDICATED time available. :hi:
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Not assuming that was a dumb post, it was dumb.

What many others wanted is irrelevant. Additionally, how has he done well or not done well? You know, since there is no record to go by yet. Say killer?
 
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allvol123 said:
Not assuming that was a dumb post, it was dumb.

What many others wanted is irrelevant. Additionally, how has he done well or not done well? You know, since there is no record to go by yet. Say killer?
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Doesn’t stop your roar the opposite way...Tiger! :)
 
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HearForGrumors said:
Vince Wilfork Stats - In his thirteen year career - these are his numbers:

Career:
Games Played 189
Games Started: 179
Interceptions: 3 for 48 yards
TD0
Lng28
Passes Defended: 24
Forced Fumbles: 5
Fumble Recoveries (by player or team): 12 for 2 yards returned
TDs: 1
Sacks: 16.0
Tackles: 370
Assisted: 195

Averaging:
1.9 Tackles per game (total)
.08 Sacks per game
11 games per sack
1.23 Sack per season
2.8 Sacks Per Season
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fixed, you missed a decimal point
 
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NeverWe'llSever said:
Seriously comparing KMac to Wilfork?
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He is comparing the stats of a Hall of famer to a guy that plays the game in similar fashion. People knock Kmac and call him a bust because he didn't have lots of sacks and TFL's. But that is no the role he played in the defense. Look at the stats of any great NT's Linebackers and that is how he is measured.

Every Great MLB had a big hog in front of him keeping him clean.
 
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pimo1 said:
He is comparing the stats of a Hall of famer to a guy that plays the game in similar fashion. People knock Kmac and call him a bust because he didn't have lots of sacks and TFL's. But that is no the role he played in the defense. Look at the stats of any great NT's Linebackers and that is how he is measured.

Every Great MLB had a big hog in front of him keeping him clean.
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LOLLL!!!!

Our LBs would argue that Kmac didn't occupy and keep ANY blockers off of them....

Good grief, man--did you even watch the games?

Kmac could never get off the ball fast enough to draw a DT....nor was one required to block him unless it was by design....

Not ONE SEC OC---or even UMASS's OC---had to devise any special scheme to account for him.....

comparing his game to Wilfork is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen on this site....and that's truly saying something.

He's a legacy...and has almost all the measurables....

but NONE of that made him worth a DAMN on the field....

VICKERS will make a NFL squad before KM does.....
 
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99gator said:
Alriight, I did the D4H thing and pretended I was a professional scout.

I watched the Georgia Tech and Georgia games.

First of all, I didn’t see him get penetration once. Most of the time he was single blocked. He has absolutely no lateral quickness and doesn’t fire off on the snap of the ball. The o-line delivers the blow to him. He does not deliver the blow to the o-line. He doesn’t get off blocks very well either.

He did, by and large, hold his ground on numerous occasions, but did not effect the play. But, I didn’t see any play that was designed to go in a certain direction where the running back had to go somewhere it wasn’t designed because he disrupted the play.

Pass rush is non existent. Doesn’t push back his man into the pocket.

Based on what I was looking at, he needs to gain 60 pounds and turn into Gilbert Brown or Ted Washington to be of value to a team.
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Georgia Tech was a triple option team. Not exactly the best team to judge a interior defensive lineman. Especially when we lined up our guys 3 yards off the ball and they had offensive lineman gunning for their knees.

So other than that you really only saw the Georgia game. And I doubt you focused on Kahlil very much.

You are wrong about Kahlil not getting pressure on the passer. He had 2 sacks this year. That's really good for a 1-technique. Da'Ron Payne (who is All-World) only had 1 sack on the season playing a similar position to Kahlil in the 3-4. I watched more than 1 game and I saw Kahlil get good pressure most of the year on bull rushes in one on one situations. Pass rushing is not his strong suit but he's better than non-existent at it.

And you keep saying he didn't get penetration against the run. THAT'S NOT HIS JOB. You guys know nothing about football and are criticizing a guy who does his job rather than chase glory. As the 1-technique his responsibility in the run game is to hold up the offensive lineman. Its not to try and shoot the gap and getting a tackle for loss on the RB. That's what the 3-technique and linebackers are supposed to do.

Asking Kahlil to ignore his gap responsibilities and try to make a play in the backfield is going against what he is supposed to do. This would be the equivalent of getting mad at an outside linebacker whose responsibility is to set the edge in the run game for not beating his blocker to the inside to tackle the RB. Sure if he makes that play it's a highlight and fans will think he's great. But I guarantee you that the coaches would rip him. Because in the run game every player has gaps and responsibilities to play before they try to be a hero and get the highlight play. The outside linebacker in a run to the outside is supposed to get outside leverage so that the RB can't break it to the outside for a huge run. Limiting the outside run and forcing the ball carrier to the middle of the field so that his teammates on the inside can make the tackle is his role.

Kahlil's responsibility in the run game was never to beat his man and get tackles in the backfield. He's supposed to hold his offensive lineman at the line of scrimmage and plug his gap so that the RB can't get through it if he makes a guy miss in the backfield. His teammates are the ones that are supposed to make those glory plays that impress ignorant fans like you. Kahlil was a very gap sound 1-technique. And on 3rd down passing situations he showed good bull rushing power up the middle.

Y'all need to learn football before criticizing players for doing what they are coached to do.
 
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Vol 67 said:
My best guess is that this marshmallow was afraid to work with new S&C coach and go through a spring practice with Pruitt.
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Kahlil is in about as good a shape as I've ever seen for a 320 lbs man.

You guys are seriously delusional if you think this is because he doesn't want to work hard in the weight room.
 
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Other_Guy said:
Worst run D I've ever seen. Not buying it. Dude was a 5 star and I don't see him on all SEC teams.
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Football is a team game. Using the team's overall stats to judge him in silly.

You gotta watch tape and actually understand football to know whether Kahlil played well or not. I watched the tape and I know football and I'm telling you he was very good the last 2 seasons.

And before you think I'm just pro-Kahlil, remember I ripped him as a freshmen. I was calling him a bust before his sophomore year while most of you were defending him cause he only played one year. You guys were going off emotion cause you were hopeful about the future of Tennessee football. I was going off tape.

And now y'all are mad he left early and the team didn't have a lot of success with him so y'all are ripping him. While I'm going off the tape and seeing how he performed the last 2 years.
 
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KBVol said:
Whoa...hold up. Physical size is where the comparison between Payne and KMac begins and ends. Payne is a freak athlete, is quick and explosive. KMac....is not.

Would KMac benefit from a year under Pruitt and Rocker? Yes, no doubt. But no amount of coaching is gonna put KMac in the same stratosphere with Payne as an athlete and disruptive, dynamic DT.
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Ain't you Mr. Stats. What is this about quickness and explosiveness?

Based on the numbers Kahlil was more disruptive this season. More sacks and TFLs in less games.

Since you're all about stats, how can you praise a guy who had only 1 sack all season?
 
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NeverWe'llSever said:
Seriously comparing KMac to Wilfork?
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They have similar skill sets and responsibilities.

The point there isn't to say Kahlil is as good as Wilfork. But rather that a Hall of Fame 0-technique like Vince Wilfork put up little in the way of box score stats over what will likely be a Hall of Fame career.

Kahlil is not that good. But the people trying to say he was not good at Tennessee because he didn't get many sacks or tackles for loss simply don't know football.
 
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Doesn't really matter what KM did while he was here....teams ran through our Dline with and without him. The entire football program hasn't been physical since the early 2000s.
 
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