Kahlil declares for draft

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99gator said:
Alriight, I did the D4H thing and pretended I was a professional scout.

I watched the Georgia Tech and Georgia games.

First of all, I didn’t see him get penetration once. Most of the time he was single blocked. He has absolutely no lateral quickness and doesn’t fire off on the snap of the ball. The o-line delivers the blow to him. He does not deliver the blow to the o-line. He doesn’t get off blocks very well either.

He did, by and large, hold his ground on numerous occasions, but did not effect the play. But, I didn’t see any play that was designed to go in a certain direction where the running back had to go somewhere it wasn’t designed because he disrupted the play.

Pass rush is non existent. Doesn’t push back his man into the pocket.

Based on what I was looking at, he needs to gain 60 pounds and turn into Gilbert Brown or Ted Washington to be of value to a team.
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Yep he stands straight up and can only bull rush. Poorly coached no doubt.
 
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sjt18 said:
Your idiocy is only rivaled by your arrogance.

You know next to nothing about football... and that's being very kind.
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He knows how to bait you and many others on this site.... smh..
 
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kiddiedoc said:
You must have missed the news that Dobbs beat out Big Ben and is starting Sunday vs. Jacksonville.
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If I break my NFL fast and watch the Steelers this weekend and I don't see Dobbs starting, I'm going to say something really mean about you on here.........
 
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By the way, who’s the idiot that thought it was a good idea to line up 2 yards off the ball against Georgia Tech?
 
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99gator said:
First of all, I didn’t see him get penetration once. Most of the time he was single blocked. He has absolutely no lateral quickness and doesn’t fire off on the snap of the ball. The o-line delivers the blow to him. He does not deliver the blow to the o-line. He doesn’t get off blocks very well either.

He did, by and large, hold his ground on numerous occasions, but did not effect the play. But, I didn’t see any play that was designed to go in a certain direction where the running back had to go somewhere it wasn’t designed because he disrupted the play.

Pass rush is non existent. Doesn’t push back his man into the pocket.
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I'm OK with him not getting good penetration/pass rush. He's a DT, and there are very good DTs who aren't good pass rushers. That's OK, because it isn't their primary duty.

The biggest knock on McKenzie is, as you said, he did not really effect plays. He was not disruptive at the line of scrimmage unless he was blocked poorly. He didn't get blown off the ball, but he also didn't seem to be a guy opposing OC's looked at in game prep and said "OK, we really have to account for this guy on every play." If he was adequately blocked by the offense, he was a non-factor.

That's why I'm hesitant to be really hard on him, because he did contribute and was an adequate player. His college career would be fine if he was a light-to-moderately recruited 3-star player, but he was a 5-star, #6 recruit overall by 247 with offers from all the top schools. Perhaps he was slightly overrated because of the pedigree, but even still his college career was pretty disappointing.
 
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MurphyVol said:
McKenzie put together his best season as a Vol this past year, totaling 36 tackles, four tackles for loss, two sacks, and two quarterback hurries. He finishes his Tennessee career with 72 total tackles, 5.5 tackles for loss, three sacks, a forced fumble, and two passes defended..... he'll need Dad's help to get drafted.
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Fify
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
1-techniques don't get judged by sacks or tackles. They take on double teams and plug up gaps in the running game. Kahlil did that very well. Even if his father wasn't a GM, he would get drafted.

I think you guys will be surprised by how high his stock is with NFL people.

I focused on watching Kahlil a lot these last 2 years and he's been really good as a 1-technique. He never gets moved back. Does a great job taking on double teams. And plugged his holes very well.

KMac was a lot better than you guys give him credit for.
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Translation: This dude is in trouble. Hope he can still get his degree.
 
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05_never_again said:
I'm OK with him not getting good penetration/pass rush. He's a DT, and there are very good DTs who aren't good pass rushers. That's OK, because it isn't their primary duty.

The biggest knock on McKenzie is, as you said, he did not really effect plays. He was not disruptive at the line of scrimmage unless he was blocked poorly. He didn't get blown off the ball, but he also didn't seem to be a guy opposing OC's looked at in game prep and said "OK, we really have to account for this guy on every play." If he was adequately blocked by the offense, he was a non-factor.

That's why I'm hesitant to be really hard on him, because he did contribute and was an adequate player. His college career would be fine if he was a light-to-moderately recruited 3-star player, but he was a 5-star, #6 recruit overall by 247 with offers from all the top schools. Perhaps he was slightly overrated because of the pedigree, but even still his college career was pretty disappointing.
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Or maybe he was just that poorly coached and or evaluated as far as putting him in position to use his strengths and minimize his weaknesses. Based on how Kamara has played in the NFL wouldn't be surprised to see anyone that goes pro from this program ball out in the league; they were just that poorly coached and developed.
 
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1974Vol said:
Or maybe he was just that poorly coached and or evaluated as far as putting him in position to use his strengths and minimize his weaknesses. Based on how Kamara has played in the NFL wouldn't be surprised to see anyone that goes pro from this program ball out in the league; they were just that poorly coached and developed.
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Kamara did at Tennessee exactly what he is doing in the NFL.

This is not a good comparison. He may be getting more touches, but he’s showing the same ability.

It’s not like he was an easy cover for a linebacker, dropped passes and couldn’t make people miss in college.

He performed.

It’s not Terrell Davis who didn’t have 500 yards rushing as a senior and then ran for 2000 yards in a season in the nfl.

Kamara was getting it done in college
 
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So the options, start with my 3d D-Line Coach, 4th S&C coach, 3d DC, and probably learn a new scheme which generally is recognized to take two years to master, and possibly a new position - nose - not to mention the fan base if not the coaching staff might think I'm a better fit as an OG,
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Do all that while making $400K and not having to split time with full time studies.
He has the physical gifts to make it, he and many others just haven't been coached and motivated to excell
 
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allvol123 said:
You're in line with the guy that proposed he had someone in place to approve vacations and absences.
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Or hire Directors of Player Operations from HARD WORKING coaches not in Atlanta. :)
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
A bum? Why are you bad-mouthing Kahlil? What has he ever done to you?

All Kahlil has done is give his all for Tennessee. I don't get why some fans hate on our own players simply because they decide to do what is in their career's best interest.
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Can someone link that Dobbs comment here?
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
1-techniques don't get judged by sacks or tackles. They take on double teams and plug up gaps in the running game. Kahlil did that very well. Even if his father wasn't a GM, he would get drafted.

I think you guys will be surprised by how high his stock is with NFL people.

I focused on watching Kahlil a lot these last 2 years and he's been really good as a 1-technique. He never gets moved back. Does a great job taking on double teams. And plugged his holes very well.

KMac was a lot better than you guys give him credit for.
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He was nowhere near as good as you are giving him credit for.
 
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1974Vol said:
Or maybe he was just that poorly coached and or evaluated as far as putting him in position to use his strengths and minimize his weaknesses. Based on how Kamara has played in the NFL wouldn't be surprised to see anyone that goes pro from this program ball out in the league; they were just that poorly coached and developed.
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I agree that McKenzie was poorly coached, but guys like Derek Barnett, Cam Sutton, and Jalen Reeves-Maybin were also poorly coached and had good to great careers at Tennessee. Barnett in particular was one of the best ever to play at his position in school history. Hell - Barnett looked like he was ready to be in the NFL last year. The burst off the line, the bend, use of his hands, multiple moves to get around OTs...he had a lot of the skills already. He's just a naturally good player.

Somebody with that much (supposed) natural talent should be able to find a way to play at a relatively high level. I think McKenzie still underachieved despite the poor coaching.
 
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99gator said:
By the way, who’s the idiot that thought it was a good idea to line up 2 yards off the ball against Georgia Tech?
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"remember that time we lined up two yards off the line of scrimmage?"...future top 10 Butchism memory, along with second string Kamara, and many other joyous events (for other teams).
 
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My best guess is that this marshmallow was afraid to work with new S&C coach and go through a spring practice with Pruitt.
 
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