Madscientistvol
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Are you 12? Woodson wasnt even on the Heisman radar until the 8 th or 9th game. Peyton did nothing to lose the award! It was as big a farce since majors lost it!
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I was at the Heisman dinner in New York in 2014 and Billy Cannon himself told me I was right about Peyton getting it stole from him and he said F them as well. And he is a Tiger. It only makes you look dumb to think Woodson deserved it instead. Will take Billy's opinion over yours.
Are you 12? Woodson wasnt even on the Heisman radar until the 8 th or 9th game. Peyton did nothing to lose the award! It was as big a farce since majors lost it!
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I feel like "politically correct" is an odd choice of words here...care to elaborate?
Just out of curiosity, the ones saying they will never watch again, would you watch if a Vol was the leading candidate?
Manning got screwed. Johnny Majors got ROYALLY screwed! Hornung won with worse statistics and was on a 2 - 8 team! The 5th place that year was also screwed. It was a young fellow named Jim Brown. Majors or Brown should have won but the Notre Dame connection was too much to overcome.
I won't hold my breath on that one. It'd require some serious changes in the way sports journalism functions . I'd have to wonder about the motivations of ESPN and others if that happened especially the way our fan base was treated and portrayed during the whole Schiano fiasco.
I won't hold my breath on that one. It'd require some serious changes in the way sports journalism functions . I'd have to wonder about the motivations of ESPN and others if that happened especially the way our fan base was treated and portrayed during the whole Schiano fiasco.
20 years later and I haven't forgotten the obvious politically correct shun of a vol legend. The ridiculous campaign to give Woodson the trophy over Manning FOREVER delegitimizes this so called award . I refuse to watch to this day. Anyone more tolerant and forgiving than me?
I remember it vividly. Damn. That makes me feel old that the internet was barely a blip on the radar.To hell with that. ESPN was the biggest game in town and they made Woodson the star every time college football and the Heisman was a conversation topic. Anyone who was a Vol fan at the time watched it happen. Other players at Woodson's position had similar stats, but it was all Woodson on the recap shows. And people today who didn't experience it live might not understand how great an impact ESPN had at that time; there weren't a million different channels and pundits and the internet was barely a blip on the college football landscape, so ESPN led the narrative from scrimmage to bowl season.
Make no mistake about this - the end of that recent ESPN article even tried to tidy up the mess by closing with an especially stupid Griese quote.
"But I really don't think Peyton lost it. Charles took it from him."
That's utter crap. Charles Woodson didn't take the Heisman, ESPN took it. ESPN took it, and shined it up real nice, and handed it to Woodson after campaigning for him throughout the latter half of the season. "Oh but Manning lost to Florida." Utter crap. Eddie George's Buckeyes were 11-2 but you didn't see anyone complaining about him getting the Heisman over Tommy Frazier or Danny Wuerffel. And if you look through the historical voting, there's plenty of instances where players from teams with blemished records made 3rd, 2nd, or even 1st in voting results.
No, the Heisman was a dumb popularity vote contest and ESPN decided they had a better story to sell than Peyton Manning. That's all. It's in the past now, but don't ever let ESPN paint the narrative for that garbage. They'll try to. Lord knows they'll try to. Try to make it out as if they didn't influence it. But that year's results were manipulated by their presentation, through and through.
So in that instance being undefeated meant something. Now..... finishing third in your conference with a loss to the runner up in the conference championship gets you into the national championship tournament.
My how times have changed.
Oh and Champ Bailey had better overall numbers than Woodson.
Oh, and I am watching Perry Mason.
Peyton did not beat Florida. Thats what ultimately killed his chances. Whether thats fair or not (it isnt) that had more of an effect than anything.
Everybody in America remembers that punt return, but only TN fans remember what else happened that day. Manning three for 500 yards and 5 TDs. But ESPN didnt cover the SEC then like they do now. Maybe CBS had exclusive SEC rights? Idk