Recruiting Forum Football Talk XLVII

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John Wick said:
What's interesting is that he posted this in his twitter feed:
"Schiano and Tennessee will mix like oil and water. Oh boy." He said that it wouldn't be a good fit and then trashes us for saying it's not a good fit. Got to love them ESPN personalities.
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They wonder why the network is losing money while their on-air “talent” goes out and passes judgment, in the form of uneducated sweeping generalizations, on people they don’t know. Then they go on TV and complain about social issues involving uneducated sweeping generalizations...
 
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How about Cutcliffe as coach for 3-5 years and Tee as OC/coach in waiting and Kevin Steele as DC. Bring Jay Graham back as RB coach (although Gillespie is only coach I’d keep off this staff) and Terry Fair as DB coach.

That’s a staff with a little Vol flavor.
 
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Listened to a lot of XM radio today while leaving Knoxville and they were pretty complimentary of our fan base.

I felt sick for a lot of today, like I was going through a bad breakup. It pained me to email Currie to say I would no longer donate for season tickets. If the hire had went through I was planning on calling the TN Fund this morning and just going to MTSU or Memphis games in the future until Schiano was gone. This decision was 100% due to the PSU stuff.

Very proud of everyone that emailed/called/tweeted today. I realize this probably hurts us finding a Coach right now but some things are more important than the W/L record. I’m excited to support and be patient with whoever our new coach is.
 
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UT is just the perfect picture of disfunction and utter incompetence. I just don't get it.

I went to UT in the 90's and the image of Fulmer and his Vols made opponents tremble. The respect Tennessee Football commanded was unquestioned.

And now this??? We are in the toilet and the rest of this pathetic conference is sh*tting on us. What a joke... absolutely mind boggling. Is Currie an imbecile? Is he getting his orders from a more powerful imbecile? Did he actually believe that he could shove Schiano down our throats and have us thank him for it?? WTF is going on at UT? Seriously... WTF is going on????
 
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Danny Kanell really has me heated

Wonder what he would be tweeting if Florida was in this situation?

“Florida fans stand up for all of us. Too many questions surrounding Schiano and his alleged role in the Sandusky scandal.”
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I think this could be a shift. This may be rock bottom. I think maybe with this cluster fudge, the Haslems start losing some power. Maybe just wishful thinking but I can't help to think they've got dirt on their hands here too.
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Maybe those poor Cleveland Browns fans will have an epic meltdown if this works for us.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Danny Kanell really has me heated

Wonder what he would be tweeting if Florida was in this situation?

“Florida fans stand up for all of us. Too many questions surrounding Schiano and his alleged role in the Sandusky scandal.”
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He hates Florida as a former Seminole. Do you mean Florida State?
 
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Kingston Vol said:
You know what, I was just thinking, and we all need to take a collective lap for thinking Brent Hubbs was out of the loop this time around and had no idea what was going on.

He consistently named Schiano and we all laughed and hee-hawed about how Currie was able to hide everything from him.

WELP.
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Thank goodness he gave us a clue.. Currie may not have cared but our fan base vetted him before the deed was announced. We decided that ANYONE even Kiffin would be better than that.
 
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I have this picture of Currie sitting by the fireplace with a cup of bourbon, smirk on his face, rubbing his hands together thinking he has nailed it...

“Man! Greg Schiano! They won’t believe it! This is gonna be great!”
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
I tried to imagine another team, and the closest I could get was passively cheering for Frost at Nebraska... a team that paralleled Tennessee, but finally got their moment
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I was thinking Mark Richt and Miami, but Frost would have been a good parallel to us.
 
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I can't believe that UCLA got Chip Kelly in 3 days and the imbecile running UT Athletics took a whole month to get Schiano.

Go get Tee, Kiffin, or Petrino... and let's roll.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
The fact that he couldn't understand that he'd lost some portion of the fanbase merely for not firing Butch quickly enough or that he couldn't forsee a huge backlash to a guy with (admittedly loose and questionably accurate) ties to the Sandusky tragedy coming off Butch Jones and a Title IX investigation is borderline malpractice.
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Agreed. Currie’s plan to hire Schiano is an example of a specific kind of myopia seen among management consultants, performance coaches, and executive search firms— obsession with things that look great on paper.

On paper, Schiano has the three most important things the Tennessee AD was looking for in a head coach:
1) Proven record building a winning program— Rutgers was a worse job than Vandy or Purdue and he made them respectable (went something like 1-21 in the two years prior to his arrival);
2) Proven expertise on one side of the ball, regardless of one game duds— OSU has been in the top 25 or so on defense in both of his years and apparently he’s respected in the NFL for his defensive chops; and,
3) Proven elite Recruiting— he pulled numerous guys from Florida at Rutgers and he kept most of the NJ guys home. Oh, and he’s the #2 recruiter on 247 for 2017.

The problem with all that, of course, is that he’s Butch 2: To Tha Extreme, even if we set aside the unproven Sandusky/Penn State allegations**. No one associated with Tennessee football wants another coach with control issues (Schiano allegedly filmed his players on the sideline to review their demeanor), injury and training room concerns (MRSA outbreak that players and trainers blamed him for), and a penchant for out-of-touch rah-rah soundbites.

If Schiano is the hire in 2013 instead of Jones, maybe the Vols are in a better place right now— recruiting is probably similar or better, in-game coaching couldn’t be worse, and maybe the defense is decent— but no one wants a Butch retread, even if he’s Super Butch.

**Sidenote: everyone involved in the Penn State mess has incentive to claim they knew nothing and Sandusky was a master manipulator. Who would you trust: the guy who came forward and had his reputation tarnished, or the guys who have legal liability and professional interest in claiming ignorance?
 
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