The Official Dan Mullen Thread

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#602
UTK said:
UT recruits itself. If Dooley and Jones can average too 15 over there years here, Mullen can and probably can do much better. Also. He can surround himself with good recruiters if need be. Plus. I’m not sure any coach could consistently pull top 25 classes to MSU, let alone top 15.
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even if he does the same in recruiting here as the previous two, he's proven he can do more with it at MSU.

the last two years (15/16) i think Mullen could have definitely won the East, and won 10 games, maybe more, with the same talent brought in by butch.

and if Mullen comes here, and wins the East in year 2 or 3, i'd say mission accomplished.

how much differently would this program be viewed if we had taken advantage of the opportunities presented in either of the last two seasons?

i mean, i get why people are saying what they're saying about Mullen, but i think it's important, to me anyway, to just sit back and say "butch sucked, that's why he's not here".

but most of us, even that were very critical of Jones, would have a completely different take on him if he was the one that beat UF and OU in 15 and won the East, and beaten USC and Vandy in 16 and won the EAst.

so i don't think it's unfair to say that a guy like Mullen, that most think is definitely better than Jones, could get this program where we think it should be at this point.

and the more you do that, the more you increase your chances of winning the conf and getting in to the playoff.
 
#603
#603
vols1707 said:
Auburn says hello......

Second fiddle to Saban and Alabama and they will beat Alabama this Saturday
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Not the same. Auburn actually has history and name recognition. They are in decent proximity to the Atlanta recruiting hotbed and they field a nationally good team about once every 5 years or so it seems.

Mississippi State hasn't won the SEC since WW2. MSU is not just a garbage job. It's the 2-year old slimy residue at the bottom of the barrel. It is what it is.
 
#604
#604
Ten_Titans said:
Perpetual .500 in the SEC is a marked improvement over this year. Cool.

Never compete for championships but beat Kentucky and Vandy every year. This is where we are.
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How do you guys not see what the man has done at mississippi state? It's not something you can just dismiss or look over. They're the 3rd lowest ranked SEC school in revenue. Mississippi is NOT a recruiting motherland. And they're little brother in their own state... The man has done what he's done in the SEC WEST. Not the East, but the West. Butch won ZERO SEC WEST games in his time here. Remember, Mullen has done this playing Alabama, Auburn, Texas A&M, and LSU every year. Imagine what he could do without that grueling SEC West schedule, a higher budget, better facilities, and a very sellable college brand that attracts recruits nationally. To me, it's a match made in heaven. Not just Power 5 experience, but SEC experience.

Mullen's 9 years at Miss St:
w/l:69-45 with 5 bowl wins.

9 years before Mullen's arrival Miss St:
w/l:37-65 with 2 bowl wins.

Gruden's college football records as HC
w/l: 0-0 with 0 bowl wins

Tennessee's Past 9 years:
w/l:57-55 with 3 bowls wins

If you can't see how great of a coaching candidate this man is then you need to take off your blinders.
 
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#605
vols1707 said:
Georgia & Florida passed on Mullen as HC and they have easier recruiting, better tradition of winning in the recruits lifetime.......

And they were a hard pass on Mullen......
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Foley didn't like Mullen, and GA wanted Smart. it's no real secret Mullen did want the GA job.

i'd of taken Smart over Mullen too, ftr. but that's not the options being presented. and i can't help that Foley just didn't like the guy.
 
#606
#606
And people really need to get it straight that Mullen passed on UF because he doesn’t want to go back there/ he and the AD don’t like eachother.
 
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#607
vols1707 said:
Georgia & Florida passed on Mullen as HC and they have easier recruiting, better tradition of winning in the recruits lifetime.......

And they were a hard pass on Mullen......
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This might be relevant if I was comparing UT to either Florida or Georgia. Unfortunately I wasn't.

Also... How well is that decision working out for Florida right now?
 
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#608
jakez4ut said:
Foley didn't like Mullen, and GA wanted Smart. it's no real secret Mullen did want the GA job.

i'd of taken Smart over Mullen too, ftr. but that's not the options being presented. and i can't help that Foley just didn't like the guy.
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Like I said earlier, I'm no Mullen homer but I'd take him over Smart. I'm just not sold on Smart. Time will tell. I'll admit I may very well be wrong.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
This might be relevant if I was comparing UT to either Florida or Georgia. Unfortunately I wasn't.

Also... How well is that decision working out for Florida right now?
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a smidge better than our decisions have worked for us?
 
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TNinSC said:
If you can't see how good of a coaching candidate this man is then you need to take off your blinders.
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I could get on board with everything you said if you had just made the one change above. He's good and he does have a difficult situation. He's got to prove he's great.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
Like I said earlier, I'm no Mullen homer but I'd take him over Smart. I'm just not sold on Smart. Time will tell. I'll admit I may very well be wrong.
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we're on the same page, my point was simply about the options made available.

we'd be fine with Mullen. maybe better than fine.
 
#613
#613
Cdywolfe said:
Like I said earlier, I'm no Mullen homer but I'd take him over Smart. I'm just not sold on Smart. Time will tell. I'll admit I may very well be wrong.
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Way too early to crown Smart the next Saban. He caught lightning in a bottle this year with all of his top jrs from last year coming back AND being great leaders. Those guys were Richt recruits. Lets see how it plays out in a few more yrs...

Mullen is rumored to be a real pain in the ass. I don't think the Knoxville media and people can handle a real first class *******
 
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#617
Mullen in my book is a solid hire. I know people would be put out, but he has won in the SEC and that speaks volumes to me. At this point he has won 8 to 9 wins a year in the SEC WEST that is saying something being you coach at STATE.
 
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VOLS1704 said:
Mullen in my book is a solid hire. I know people would be put out, but he has won in the SEC and that speaks volumes to me. At this point he has won 8 to 9 wins a year in the SEC WEST that is saying something being you coach at STATE.
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in 2012 Mississippi State had a 7–0 record, and a number 13 ranking, entering a game vs number 1, undefeated Alabama. MSU lost, 38–7, and lost two more, to number 16 Texas A&M and number 9 LSU. MSU defeated Arkansas, and was looking for a fourth straight win over Ole Miss, who was 5–6 going into the game, similar to MSU the year before. The Bulldogs lost, 41–24, and then lost to Northwestern, 34–20, in the Gator Bowl to finish 8–5......


2013 season against number 13 Oklahoma State, losing, 21–3. They defeated Alcorn State, but lost to Auburn, 24–20. (They defeated Troy, Kentucky, and Bowling Green, and lost to LSU, South Carolina, Texas A&M, and Alabama---does this remind you of anyone Butch Jones maybe)to drop to 4–6, traveling to Little Rock, Arkansas, to battle Arkansas. MSU won, 24–17, in overtime, and was 5–6 entering the Ole Miss game.


On December 26, 2016, Mullen made SEC history when he became the first football coach in conference history to win a bowl game and still finish with a losing record on the season; Mississippi State finished the season with a 6–7 mark.[9]


THIS IS THE GUY YOU ALL WANT😂😂😂😂😂C'mon man aim higher.He did have a decent season on 2014 but I'm just trying to point sum facts out.I don't know where this"but he wins 8-9 games a year theory comes from".
 
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jakez4ut said:
a smidge better than our decisions have worked for us?
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Agreed... But just cause Florida's coaching hires have sucked slightly less than ours doesn't change the fact that they've still sucked. So I'm not sure I'd point to their decisions (like he did), as if they're something we should try to replicate.
 
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#622
If Mullen is so good, then why didn't Florida (where he coached before Mississippi State) hire him the day after they fired McElwain?
 
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#623
Wood Man said:
If Mullen is so good, then why didn't Florida (where he coached before Mississippi State) hire him the day after they fired McElwain?
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I’ve read at least dozen times on this very thread that Mullen and the UF AD don’t get along and Mullen has stated he wouldn’t go work for him.
 
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#625
#625
“I wasn’t involved. It was a university decision. I was just thrilled that we’re having Jeffery as part of our family. As I said, I take a lot of pride as a coach on developing young men to be champions, not just on the field, but off the field and every part of their life to be successful in everything they do. And that’s not an easy process.“

Sounds almost like he made Simmons a champion of life. I will say, if you haven’t seen the Simmons video, it means Mullen is a win at all coach, what Tn needs. Most schools wouldn’t have accepted Simmons.
 
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