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Had to start a whole new account. Lost my old email I originally signed in with. Had to go 3 days without being able to fully view or comment in here. NOT COOL! Lol.
 
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So let’s say it’s Gruden. There’s no way we can wait till after Christmas to have him recruiting. IMO, if it’s him, it HAS to be in the next 7-10 days. Or, does his name alone save this class? I don’t know he wouldn’t be distracted or a distraction on MNF.
 
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revjayp said:
So let’s say it’s Gruden. There’s no way we can wait till after Christmas to have him recruiting. IMO, if it’s him, it HAS to be in the next 7-10 days. Or, does his name alone save this class? I don’t know he wouldn’t be distracted or a distraction on MNF.
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New coach will have to be announced soon for recruiting imo.
 
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bam025 said:
For the guys all over Grudens sack.
Question:
1) he hasn’t coached in 10 years, what makes you think he can come in and start winning
2) who would he bring in as assistants?
3) will the same people be calling for his head after he goes 5-6 the 1st year?
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InVOLuntary said:
I think if the deal has truly been agreed upon, they'll want a little distance between Butch being fired and Gruden being announced. They will try and squash the appearance that they were working on a deal while Butch was still coaching.
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If that’s the case, we’re in trouble because Currie doesn’t exactly do well with timing issues.

If it’s not announced within a week, time to start looking for option number 2.
 
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An observation or three:

Eschewing a search committee or search firm is a pretty bold move. Inserting others into the process gives an AD a degree of shielding. Without one, it's 100% Currie's decision.

So he's clearly a very confident person. That's the first observation.

But he also has to believe he can come up with a new coach the community will applaud. Because, self-confident or not, his destiny is attached at the hip to this hire and that's a big rock in the ruck sack.

So he's got at least one big name already in his pocket. Bigger than Mullen, I'd say, bigger than Frost. If not JG, at least a Patterson level option. Proven winner who has already said he wants to come to Tennessee.

And that's comforting to know. Not as comforting as Currie walking into a press conference tomorrow to say the words Jon F'ing Gruden, but still comforting.
 
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Boomer_Vol said:
The longer we wait, the less likely it is to be who we all want. Longer wait time = we're going after someone who's already coaching and we're letting them finish out their season to "avoid distractions". Honestly, the biggest news to come out today has gone largely overlooked and has been laughed at: The reports that Currie offered to let Butch coach the final two games.

I (and others) don't believe Butch would've been offered the opportunity to coach the final two games unless there was already a plan in motion. Realistically, there are really only 3 possibilities (all of these are in reference to offering Butch the opportunity to coach the final 2 games):

1. AD already has who he wants and a specific date was agreed upon; it's just smooth sailing until then.

2. AD doesn't have plan in motion and will evaluate available talents following the conclusion of the season.

3. AD literally has no idea what he's doing and thinks it's a good idea to fire the coach without a contingency plan in place YET STILL afford him the opportunity to coach.

I don't think 3 is much of an option, and 2 just seems like a silly idea (to fire the coach but allow him to keep coaching).
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You make a good point regarding butch offered two additional games ..... I, too, think he has his guy and a plan is already in place or that wouldn't have happened.

Good work brother.
 
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Coastypop said:
I know many in here do not believe this... but I want to believe this real bad.... just don't want to live through another crash like 2012
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I think a lot of us are feeling that exact thing. No matter what, these threads have been a welcome diversion through an otherwise miserable season.
 
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bam025 said:
For the guys all over Grudens sack.
Question:
1) he hasn’t coached in 10 years, what makes you think he can come in and start winning
2) who would he bring in as assistants?
3) will the same people be calling for his head after he goes 5-6 the 1st year?
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Who are you and don't you have some other thread to troll?
 
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For the guys all over Grudens sack.
Question:
1) he hasn’t coached in 10 years, what makes you think he can come in and start winning
2) who would he bring in as assistants?
3) will the same people be calling for his head after he goes 5-6 the 1st year?

STFU and GTFO!
 
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preacherwebb said:
just a flashback to my high school days.
it's y'alls fault for bringing up some song that gruden gets introduced to. my mind went to wandering ...
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I'm a believer too, brother, but I will still crank some Metallica at times. I'm just more judicious at cutting out songs with certain themes.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
An observation or three:

Eschewing a search committee or search firm is a pretty bold move. Inserting others into the process gives an AD a degree of shielding. Without one, it's 100% Currie's decision.

So he's clearly a very confident person. That's the first observation.

But he also has to believe he can come up with a new coach the community will applaud. Because, self-confident or not, his destiny is attached at the hip to this hire and that's a big rock in the ruck sack.

So he's got at least one big name already in his pocket. Bigger than Mullen, I'd say, bigger than Frost. If not JG, at least a Patterson level option. Proven winner who has already said he wants to come to Tennessee.

And that's comforting to know. Not as comforting as him walking into a press conference tomorrow to say the words Jon F'ing Gruden, but still comforting.
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Excellent point.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I think if the deal has truly been agreed upon, they'll want a little distance between Butch being fired and Gruden being announced. They will try and squash the appearance that they were working on a deal while Butch was still coaching.
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Unfortunately, no. If it's done then information will start coming out slowly but surely, and eventually something/someone will slip up. Everybody will "know" before it's officially announced, and there are a couple of things wrong with that.

1. Casts the shadow of doubt over the transparency of the program; or poor public perception

2. "Distance" is the least of their concerns. If timing happened to be a factor, they wouldn't have fired the coach in the first place until the end of the season.

Really it just comes down to the fact (what I believe) that everybody is waiting on 1 person, and that 1 person is Mr. Gruden himself. We're just waiting for the stroke of the pen
 
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