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Remember the other day when Larry confirmed Gruden was in East Tennessee?

Why would Gruden be in East TN and not at the UT game as rumored?

Just sayin. That’s some serious smoke.

Yes, there is. There’s so much sometimes, that I have a hard time breathing when i come onto VN, and even get a little warm from the flames.
 
Has he done well against Saban? Not necessarily beat him but at least made a game of it ? Understand talent differential.

Has anyone?

In their one an only meetup

October 16, 2005 Jon Gruden's Tampa Bay Bucs 27 Nick Saban's Miami Dolphins 13

Tampa lost Brian Griese in that game, knee injury, out for the season. The Bucs finished the regular season at 11-5 while Miami finished at 9-7.
 
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Nobody will give a ****. It doesn't involve Gruden.

Yep. And I agree with your "relevant info" post. It takes awhile, and a lot of reading, but there are posters there...and here...who are either truly in touch with someone, or very good at interpreting what little bit we do know.

I was not on the Gruden train, but just by watching what has, and in some cases has not, been said by those in and around the UT Football program...I have come to believe that Gruden is in fact the #1 target.

And he just might be about to blow up Freak's server.

Go Vols.
 
What's your take on beaver?
He does a great sales job on VN but some of his deleted tweets sound like a drunken scientologist trying to convince others to convert.

Like dual personalities.

I remain skeptical of him but Atlanta Vol connected with him outside of VN and said he's legit. I don't know what to think. I think he has an agenda.
 
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Gotta run. The fall chill has finally hit down here, so time to do the final trim work in the yard, and winter fertilizer. Still cleaning up small limbs and pine cones from Irma, if you can believe it. It's ungodly how many pine cones a 3/4 acre yard can hold.

Plan to watch the game, or as much of it as I can handle. C y'all later.

Go Vols.
 
I remain skeptical of him but Atlanta Vol connected with him outside of VN and said he's legit. I don't know what to think. I think he has an agenda.

AV only confirmed that Beaver played golf at a place with prominent members correct?
You can be wealthy and even connected but still be a little crazy.


Excuse me, you're "eccentric" when you have wealth lol.
 
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Part of the misinformation campaign, IMO.

Last time around he gave out info about the funds for gruden being put in an escrow account.

This time around he said he hasn’t gotten anything from his sources because he was so careless with info last time. Made lots of people unhappy. He basically doesn’t have anything now, and if he does, it’s probably false.
 
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I didn’t realize Stanford beat Washington last night. I thought Washington would run the table or lose 1 at worst this year in the regular season.
 
I didn’t realize Stanford beat Washington last night. I thought Washington would run the table or lose 1 at worst this year in the regular season.

For most of college football, it’s “any given Saturday.”

For UT under Butch Jones, it’s “every ******* Saturday”
 
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Can confirm that Taggarts reps reached out to Currie

Maybe I’m just tired of seeing Sexton hold all of college football hostage and remember how we were used and abused in 2012... but does this happen because of legit interest or just to use us as a way to get a promotion for nothing and stay put?
 
What's your take on beaver?
He does a great sales job on VN but some of his deleted tweets sound like a drunken scientologist trying to convince others to convert.

Like dual personalities.

Honestly, I don’t know. Initially, all of the information he was giving out had me believing, because it just seemed too elaborate and detailed for it to be made up… The venture capitalist company, the plot by the other boosters to push Haslam out, and the fact that a lot of the boosters came together and said that either hire Gruden for a homerun, or they will take all of their donation money and pull it. All of that information seemed too detailed, but also seemed realistic. However, the latest portion of his campaign with the tweets and putting locations on his Twitter page to try make people connect dots, just seems very odd to me. He comes across like someone who just has too much time on his hands. However, maybe he is the son of one of our wealthy boosters and actually does have too much time on his hands.

The things that I keep coming back to that intrigue me are the things that he said early on have all come true. Also, the poster named Bubba is the most intriguing of all the so-called insiders over there. He has had an account established for 10 years on this board, yet did not post until recently with the Chase for Gruden. That strikes me as someone who is connected and follows what is being posted on this board, but never comments. However, if there was a grand plan that needed some to post on message boards to drive the agenda, then that is why he started posting.

I am very interested to see how all of this plays out. Of course, Atlanta Vol’s posts catch my attention, because we have verification from one of our own posters hear that he is legit and a big money booster. I am sure he gets some of the important information with stuff like this.

All I know is those making the decisions on the hill had better knock this hire out of the park. I know that I am not alone saying my support of this program will stop if they trot out another up and calmer.
 
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Maybe I’m just tired of seeing Sexton hold all of college football hostage and remember how we were used and abused in 2012... but does this happen because of legit interest or just to use us as a way to get a promotion for nothing and stay put?

No idea. There is literally nothing he could want at Oregon facilities wise. But who knows.
 
Last time around he gave out info about the funds for gruden being put in an escrow account.

This time around he said he hasn’t gotten anything from his sources because he was so careless with info last time. Made lots of people unhappy. He basically doesn’t have anything now, and if he does, it’s probably false.

That information about those funds collected the last time around has been confirmed to be legit. Apparently, the boosters let the athletic department keep those funds. This time around, according to those who get inside information, if the right hire is not made, those funds will be pulled.
 
Ron, you're a good dude and an awesome poster. One of the best, in fact. I appreciate the stuff you bring in here.

But here's the problem I have with "a lot of smoke": if you sit back and look at it objectively, most of it just message board smoke. Or smoke from unreliable people on twitter.

Really, I think almost all of the fat can be cut out and all we really have to go on is what Larry and Hubbs say. Any other sources have just not been proven trustworthy enough, IMO.

Then don't believe it. Simple as that. We each have that choice. Believe or don't believe, it's up to the individual.

Or, OR, you could troll and mock everyone that chooses to believe. That's always fun.

Personally I want to believe, but can't quite bring myself to. I think some of the info is legit but some is obvious trolling.
 
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AV only confirmed that Beaver played golf at a place with prominent members correct?
You can be wealthy and even connected but still be a little crazy.


Excuse me, you're "eccentric" when you have wealth lol.

No. That was on this board. He connected with him off the board after on a social media acct and came back and said he’s legit and we should listen to him.
 
Honestly, I don’t know. Initially, all of the information he was giving out had me believing, because it just seemed too elaborate and detailed for it to be made up… The venture capitalist company, the plot by the other boosters to push Haslam out, and the fact that a lot of the boosters came together and said that either hire Gruden for a homerun, or they will take all of their donation money and pull it. All of that information seemed too detailed, but also seemed realistic. However, the latest portion of his campaign with the tweets and putting locations on his Twitter page to try make people connect dots, just seems very odd to me. He comes across like someone who just has too much time on his hands. However, maybe he is the son of one of our wealthy boosters and actually does have too much time on his hands.

The things that I keep coming back to that intrigue me are the things that he said early on have all come true. Also, the poster named Bubba is the most intriguing of all the so-called insiders over there. He has had an account established for 10 years on this board, yet did not post until recently with the Chase for Gruden. That strikes me as someone who is connected and follows what is being posted on this board, but never comments. However, if there was a grand plan that needed some to post on message boards to drive the agenda, then that is why he started posting.

I am very interested to see how all of this plays out. Of course, Atlanta Vol’s posts catch my attention, because we have verification from one of our own posters hear that he is legit and a big money booster. I am sure he gets some of the important information with stuff like this.

All I know is those making the decisions on the hill had better knock this hire out of the park. I know that I am not alone saying my support of this program will stop if they trot out another up and calmer.

I definitely find Bubba interesting.

On Beaver, I found it a little weird that he went from absolutely trashing Currie and Haslam, to calling them "too smart" the other day.
Don't get me wrong, I understand it's not mutually exclusive. You can be stubborn and still make a smart business move at the end of the day. But it was odd that his stance seemed to switch according to what suited his posts the most. Either they did a complete turnaround at an opportune time or he just needed it to be that way to support his case.
 
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