Replacement for CBJ - Scott Frost

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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Don't need anyone learning on the job here so they can be a big time coach one day.

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I don't think he would be learning on the job here. It seems like he already has what it takes to win now. I say he would be a big time coach "one day" because the only piece he's missing is a big time program. He already has the chops.
 
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coachjkb said:
No disrespect to your opinion but in mine he is the worst choice. I do not want someone who is 63 years old and would retire in a few years. . I would rather have a younger person who can stay awhile. His offense was always boring.
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Respectfully you wouldn’t take Saban.
 
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Spook1 said:
:)Obviously Florida is going for Dan Mullen. Why not UT for Scott Frost? Frost is directly responsible for the success of Chip Kelly...forget Kelly go for Frost. He has a track record on offense and can improve QB's. The NFL Titans have a Frost produced QB. UT can afford him if our AD will get off his butt and do something.
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We do a great job of spending other people’s money.
 
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Spook1 said:
:)Obviously Florida is going for Dan Mullen. Why not UT for Scott Frost? Frost is directly responsible for the success of Chip Kelly...forget Kelly go for Frost. He has a track record on offense and can improve QB's. The NFL Titans have a Frost produced QB. UT can afford him if our AD will get off his butt and do something.
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First off, Scott Frost had little impact on Chip Kelly and his time at Oregon. As Oregon's WR Coach under Kelly, he certainly wasn't "directly responsible for the success of Kelly." A more accurate statement might be the that he was directly responsible for any offensive success for Mark Helfrich, but then offense wasn't really Helfrich's problem at Oregon.

Having said that, Frost is a perfect candidate for Tennessee for a few reasons.

1. He'll never reach his full potential at UCF. He knows that.
2. He has a track of record of high level offensive success as both a HC at a mid-major and an OC at a high-major. That alone makes him an impressive candidate, but...
3. He was ALSO a very ssuccessful co-DC at Northern Iowa. Having worked both sides of the ball effectively makes him very appealing. He knows what it takes to have success in both areas.
4. He should be affordable. Tennessee could increase his salary by 250% and still be around what they are paying Butch.

The negative, of course, is that Nebraska looms large, and he may decide to hold out for that job.

That said, he should be a very attractive candidate for a lot of reasons, especially if Tennessee plans to bargain hunt again, or we miss on some big fish ahead of him. Frost is probably in my top-3 of realistic options with Jeff Brohm and Gary Patterson (who is probably not all that realistic).
 
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If we don't get Frost then I hope that no one else in the SEC does. Because if they do, we will regret it.
 
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Vol4ever said:
I can understand you not wanting a older coach, but ignorance? He has had more SEC success out there than anyone with the exception of Saban or Meyer and you cant argue that.


He would have us in SEC East contention next season! While I would love Frost he has not been on this stage before, as a matter of fact none of the coaches being mentioned besides Kiffin has. His record speaks for itself.
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Yea, we totally want to hire a coach who’s clock & game management sucks.

I’m sick of these stubborn coaches who refuses to change anything when clearly it’s not working.

That’s why Les is still unemployed.
 
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chargervol said:
If we don't get Frost then I hope that no one else in the SEC does. Because if they do, we will regret it.
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I fully understand that we would want a coach who has been successful for a longer time, and at a higher level, but...

When deciding on who to hire, this would be the top reason I would hire them. If I am afraid they will go to my biggest rival, then that tells me all I need to know.

He has the pedigree. He has the proven results. He's young. We can get him while he's relatively cheap...Nuff said.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Yea, we totally want to hire a coach who’s clock & game management sucks.

I’m sick of these stubborn coaches who refuses to change anything when clearly it’s not working.

That’s why Les is still unemployed.
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I'd say a record of 114-34 is something thats NOT working. He will be hired in the off season.
 
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Frost or Mullen would be excellent fits and very good hires at UT or UF. It would likely cost less to get Frost unless there's a bidding war for him.

Frost has a great pedigree and acumen. He has played (QB) and coached under some great college and NFL coaches. I think Frost would choose UF or UT over Nebraska.

If Mullen and Stricklin liked working together, I could see him making a move to UF. I also think there's a fairly good chance Mullen might make a move to UT.

Another thing about these two is if they're successful at UT (or UF), there's a fairly good chance they would stay put there.
 
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I've been saying Frost all along but his ties to Nebraska are worrisome and his stock is rising. My friends at UCF say he is not interested in leaving but he has to say that. Time will tell.
 
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andywilson001 said:
Frost is near the bottom of my list. I would take him over Butch in a heartbeat, but we can do better.
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Yeah, yeah....mighty UT. Everyone will want the job. We will turn at least a half dozen coaches away who are far better than frost. Get over that fallacy. We will be lucky to get a guy like Frost.
 
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This is my first ever post, so please don't be too harsh on me, but why are people clamoring for Frost? Here's my thought, if we fire Butch-and seeing this inept of an AD I'm now in the "if" category-why go for a guy who is only finishing up his 2nd year as a head coach? Furthermore, when you look up his record, it really isn't that impressive. I mean he's only 12-7. I understand he's had a huge turnaround in year 2, but even Jones had some great years at CM and Cinci. To me, you go for a big name hire with some credentials and experience. I don't want another "up and comer," we've had three of those since Florida and none of them have proven to be worth a dime.
 
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GoVols64 said:
I've been saying Frost all along but his ties to Nebraska are worrisome and his stock is rising. My friends at UCF say he is not interested in leaving but he has to say that. Time will tell.
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Almost all coaches say they're happy where they are. Frost has also openly expressed disappointment with the subpar fan turnout at UCF games. I think he'd jump to UF or UT. He could recruit well at either program.
 
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TeacherVol007 said:
This is my first ever post, so please don't be too harsh on me, but why are people clamoring for Frost? Here's my thought, if we fire Butch-and seeing this inept of an AD I'm now in the "if" category-why go for a guy who is only finishing up his 2nd year as a head coach? Furthermore, when you look up his record, it really isn't that impressive. I mean he's only 12-7. I understand he's had a huge turnaround in year 2, but even Jones had some great years at CM and Cinci. To me, you go for a big name hire with some credentials and experience. I don't want another "up and comer," we've had three of those since Florida and none of them have proven to be worth a dime.
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Pedigree and promise. From the type player he was to the guys he's coached under to the offense he employs. It inspires hope. He's young enough to be hungry and mature enough to make the jump to the big stage. Just his time. No doubt it's a crap shoot but I think fans look at him and see/hope that he's got that potential to be a great coach. You want more proven, it's Mullen and Fuente in my opinion.
 
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cncchris33 said:
1. He'll never reach his full potential at UCF. He knows that.
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Why not? Just curious. UCF can be the Boise State of the east. Chris Peterson made BSU relevant. They just didn't win the games they needed to. Winning fixes everything.

Actually, the more I think about it, he can make a yuge impact at UCF, because he can take recruits away from FU, FSU and Miami. Then just win.

Or do you think UCF will always be a second tier team?
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Why not? Just curious. UCF can be the Boise State of the east. Chris Peterson made BSU relevant. They just didn't win the games they needed to. Winning fixes everything.

Actually, the more I think about it, he can make a yuge impact at UCF, because he can take recruits away from FU, FSU and Miami. Then just win.

Or do you think UCF will always be a second tier team?
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Big school. Great recruiting state. It might be hard to pull him to another job. Guy might just stay right where he is.
 
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Scott Frost is going to Nebraska. Just today their AD was talking about Coach Frost:


(Q. Nick Bahe) “Bill, I would be doing my audience a disservice if I didn’t ask you this question so I’m going to ask it as delicately and respectfully as I can. Scott Frost is having a great season at Central Florida and a good majority of my listeners would love to see him as the next head coach, whenever that would be. How familiar are you with Scott Frost, and how closely are you following what he is doing at Central Florida?”

(A. Bill Moos) “Well, Scott, of course, has a great resume. He has both coached and played the game on both offense and defense. He has learned from some of the great football minds in the business, throughout the years both, again, at the college level and in the professional ranks. I do know that he did a fabulous job at Oregon especially as the offensive coordinator with developing a Heisman trophy winner there and a team that played for a national championship. So, he’s got the full-package. The only thing that he was missing, back then, in my opinion, was actually being a head college coach and all the other responsibilities and obligations that come with that, and he has handled that superbly, from afar, as I look at it. Of course he does have the roots here, raised in the state of Nebraska and playing for the Icon that Tom Osborne is, and a lot of things very positive. Scott is going to coach in a power 5, and probably sooner than later, and he has paid his dues, and I’ve been quite impressed with that; having never really met him but just watching his work from afar.”
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Why not? Just curious. UCF can be the Boise State of the east. Chris Peterson made BSU relevant. They just didn't win the games they needed to. Winning fixes everything.

Actually, the more I think about it, he can make a yuge impact at UCF, because he can take recruits away from FU, FSU and Miami. Then just win.

Or do you think UCF will always be a second tier team?
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Because UCF will never be FSU, Florida, or Miami. I'm not saying he can't be successful there, but he'll never reach the level of success that he could at an SEC school. Not the same resources as the bigger programs, and there will almost always be a bias against non-P5 schools. Boise never made it beyond "also-ran" status because they are who they are.
 
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