Replacement for CBJ - Scott Frost

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Tidal Surge said:
He's one UT should consider, imo. I don't think it would be hard or too costly for UT to hire him away. Almost all coaches say they're happy where they are.
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I totally agree, and Roll Tide, have to say that but will wash my mouth out later. Sorry, my entire inlaws are Bama fans and I get it from all sides. Stuck in West Miami doing FEMA home inspections but I admire the streak you guys are on and just win it all and beat UGA :). But I so agree, this man can coach and I would throw the bank at him. What he's done at Syracuse is amazing. I'm so impressed listening to him talk ball and he was on First team a week or two ago, ( days run together because I worked Harvey before Irma) but WOW i was blown away by him. Now don't get me lumped in with the fire butch crowd because I'm not there yet, but if it happens I hope the powers that be goes full out on Dino.

You have a Blessed Day!
 
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jakez4ut said:
agree with your IF.:thumbsup:

i also agree about FL and the top couple targets.

i think we are probably in on the Frost sweepstakes, to what degree and commitment level? dunno.

i think we're in on Mullen, pending the IFs.

i think we make overtures to Gruden, you know, because we have to.

and i think there's a lot of vetting going on guys like Venebles, Schiano, Dave Dorean, Durkin, Brohm etc, etc.....and for some reason i just can't shake the notion that someone over that has brought up Lane Kiffin's name. to what degree, dunno. i just know that had 2009 not happened, he'd be a lot higher up on this list.

if i had to guess, we'd be thrilled to have Gruden, understanding we have no shot.

we'd probably like to see this search end at Scott Frost or Dan Mullen.

after that........could get dicey, the natives are, eh hem, restless.....understand though, there are some good coaches in that 'other' group.
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I wonder if UT and Charlie Strong have any mutual interest?

I think Strong made a big mistake when he turned down Tennessee (even tho it was a rebuild project) and went to Texas. He's a much better fit in the SEC. He did a good job at Louisville and has a very good OC (Gilbert) and other good staff members now. I know a lot of fans wouldn't be excited, but I think he's a much better coach than his dismal stint at Texas suggests.
 
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Tidal Surge said:
I wonder if UT and Charlie Strong have any mutual interest?

I think Strong made a big mistake when he turned down Tennessee (even tho it was a rebuild project) and went to Texas. He's a much better fit in the SEC. He did a good job at Louisville and has a very good OC (Gilbert) and other good staff members now. I know a lot of fans wouldn't be excited, but I think he's a much better coach than his failed stint at Texas suggests.
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Charlie would be a consideration, but he spoke volumes when he turned us down before we got CBJ. I love his work ethic, not sure about his discipline because he had some hard to manage kids at Louisville. But you might be on to something Tidal!
 
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Frost-going to Nebraska
Mullen-maybe(personally I would like to see it), but FL has inside track and he is not unhappy at Miss St-He already knows and trusts FL AD
Chip Kelly-ain't happening
Gruden-haven't we been here before
Fuentes-not leaving VT after one year
Brohm-possible, but don't think he leaves Purdue after one year
Patterson/Peterson-move along
Gundy-might play us for a raise but that's it
"He that shall not be named"-wouldn't that be a riot
Petrino-if you can watch him 24/7, maybe
Miles-please
Taggert-not leaving Oregon and Phil Knight's money


Best Realistic candidates
Bobo-Colorado State
McIntyre-Colorado
Guy at Fresno State-cain't remember his name
Norvell-Memphis

Or here we go-Currie brings in Bill Snyder
 
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Tidal Surge said:
I wonder if UT and Charlie Strong have any mutual interest?

I think Strong made a big mistake when he turned down Tennessee (even tho it was a rebuild project) and went to Texas. He's a much better fit in the SEC. He did a good job at Louisville and has a very good OC (Gilbert) and other good staff members now. I know a lot of fans wouldn't be excited, but I think he's a much better coach than his dismal stint at Texas suggests.
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well, he's tainted because of texas, but i agree, i thought he was a bad fit there, and i thought we missed the boat when he turned us down at the 11th hour.

i wouldn't be mad at that hire. he's a great defensive mind, has gotten a p5 program to the top tier at L'ville, has great ties in the Southeast and i'm sure recruiting wouldn't be much of an issue.

it'd be all about the staff, and if he wants to try on the original UT's orange on. maybe not quite the same pressure cooker TX is, but pressure cooker none the less.

in the end, i think if we were to hire Strong, it would tell me we moved down the list a ways, and that, really would be...um...not so good. but again, i wouldn't be mad....edit/// which is to say i think Charlie Strong would probably be a much better consolation prize that Derek Dooley or Butch Jones was.
 
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Vol4ever said:
maybe.....


I still think a veteran coach who has coached in the SEC at a high level would be the quickest way back to competing in the SEC east war.


Les Miles
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You do realize that when they called him the mad hatter, it had nothing to do with frequenting any local haberdasheries, right?

His offense might be a step above what Butch brought. That is why LSU canned him. While some might admire Les being gutsy enough to make crazy stuff work, I hope for someone better.

From what I can see from the upper deck, Frost seems like one of the better up and comers. If you want experience, I still like Troy Calhoun who has done very well under the limitations of coaching at one of the military academies.

But this time around the block, somebody needs to dig into every candidate. It ain't no fun investing ourselves in guys who impersonate coaches.
 
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VOLINMS said:
Frost-going to Nebraska
Mullen-maybe(personally I would like to see it), but FL has inside track and he is not unhappy at Miss St-He already knows and trusts FL AD
Chip Kelly-ain't happening
Gruden-haven't we been here before
Fuentes-not leaving VT after one year
Brohm-possible, but don't think he leaves Purdue after one year
Patterson/Peterson-move along
Gundy-might play us for a raise but that's it
"He that shall not be named"-wouldn't that be a riot
Petrino-if you can watch him 24/7, maybe
Miles-please
Taggert-not leaving Oregon and Phil Knight's money


Best Realistic candidates
Bobo-Colorado State
McIntyre-Colorado
Guy at Fresno State-cain't remember his name
Norvell-Memphis

Or here we go-Currie brings in Bill Snyder
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Jeff Tedford? Check what they said about him last year.

Fresno State hiring Jeff Tedford is the dumbest coaching move in Mountain West history - Mountain West Connection
 
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TeacherVol007 said:
This is my first ever post, so please don't be too harsh on me, but why are people clamoring for Frost? Here's my thought, if we fire Butch-and seeing this inept of an AD I'm now in the "if" category-why go for a guy who is only finishing up his 2nd year as a head coach? Furthermore, when you look up his record, it really isn't that impressive. I mean he's only 12-7. I understand he's had a huge turnaround in year 2, but even Jones had some great years at CM and Cinci. To me, you go for a big name hire with some credentials and experience. I don't want another "up and comer," we've had three of those since Florida and none of them have proven to be worth a dime.
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Remember Doug Dickey? Assistant and never head coach before hired. Built a solid program here, didn't he?
 
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jlarson11 said:
Taggart to Florida is where I would put money on for the Florida job.
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UF would likely prefer Taggart and he would rather be at UF or FSU than anywhere else. But the timing is off by 1 year since Taggart went to Oregon. Frost's salary is $2M and his buyout is $3.125M. Taggart's salary is $3.9 M and his buyout is $8.1M. From what I've heard Frost is UF's #1 target, Taggart #2.
 
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VolNRaleighNC said:
Ok but you won’t like it but I stand behind it enough to forgo UT football, all of CFB actually, if it doesn’t happen. This is totally and completely independent of all the “grumors”.

1. Gruden
2. Kelly

No. One. Else.

Anyone else that has already been mentioned will only get us, at best, 2nd in the SECE. No thanks.
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No to Gruden.

Why do people think he is the savior. We built him up to be this mythical creature almost on the planes of Kiffin returning status.

Gruden's record is not great. He has never coached NCAA football. He hasn't coachiedin a long time.

But wait dcm3w!!! Just think of all the 4-5 star recruits! Oh...you mean what CBJ is right now? Only can recruit. No results on the field. Get a proven winner with a history of having success by developing players. You said no to Mullen but out of all of the ones you've name and said no to, he's the one that's produced.
 
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VOLINMS said:
Frost-going to Nebraska
Mullen-maybe(personally I would like to see it), but FL has inside track and he is not unhappy at Miss St-He already knows and trusts FL AD
Chip Kelly-ain't happening
Gruden-haven't we been here before
Fuentes-not leaving VT after one year
Brohm-possible, but don't think he leaves Purdue after one year
Patterson/Peterson-move along
Gundy-might play us for a raise but that's it
"He that shall not be named"-wouldn't that be a riot
Petrino-if you can watch him 24/7, maybe
Miles-please
Taggert-not leaving Oregon and Phil Knight's money


Best Realistic candidates
Bobo-Colorado State
McIntyre-Colorado
Guy at Fresno State-cain't remember his name
Norvell-Memphis

Or here we go-Currie brings in Bill Snyder
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might be close to right, which ought to bring us to Kiffin.

MacIntyre is 25 - 35 at Colorado. Why would we hire a guy with a losing record?
Bobo has some SEC OC experience at Georgia, but hasn't exactly lit it up at Col. State--20-15.

I'd much prefer Kiffin to any of the "realistic" candidates above.
 
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AllforTenn said:
Remember Doug Dickey? Assistant and never head coach before hired. Built a solid program here, didn't he?
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The dynamics of this whole thing have changed a bit in the last 50 years. 200 lb kids used to play OL too. Now they are safeties.
 
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Tidal Surge said:
UF would likely prefer Taggart and he would rather be at UF or FSU than anywhere else. But the timing is off by 1 year since Taggart went to Oregon. Frost's salary is $2M and his buyout is $3.125M. Taggart's salary is $3.9 M and his buyout is $8.1M. From what I've heard Frost is UF's #1 target, Taggart #2.
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News is starting to leak that Nebraska has an offer out to Scott Frost.

Taggart will go back immediately if an offer is given to him. He can't sit around and hope for an FSU offer to come in the future. Life doesn't work that way. You take what is available and keep pushing for that end goal.
 
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jlarson11 said:
News is starting to leak that Nebraska has an offer out to Scott Frost.

Taggart will go back immediately if an offer is given to him. He can't sit around and hope for an FSU offer to come in the future. Life doesn't work that way. You take what is available and keep pushing for that end goal.
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Not surprised Nebraska is making a move on Frost, since UF is. I agree sbout Taggart. My understanding is he would jump on a UF or FSU opportunity -- either one. I think Frost would choose UF over Nebraska. Taggart's buyout is pretty dang big, tho. I think that's the main reason UF is trying first to see if Frost wants UF over Nebraska.
 
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Jaws said:
Seriosuly? So Frost wants to stay at Central Florida for the rest of his career, unless Nebraska comes calling? Doesn't want to try coaching in the SEC at the flagship University two hours up the road in the fertile recruiting grounds of Florida?

Doesn't want to try to revive the proud traditional powerhouse program at UT?

Doesn't want to try and win a National Championship, ever? Because UCF will never play for a national title.
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There a question in all that? :)
 
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ReasonableUTfan said:
I totally agree, and Roll Tide, have to say that but will wash my mouth out later. Sorry, my entire inlaws are Bama fans and I get it from all sides. Stuck in West Miami doing FEMA home inspections but I admire the streak you guys are on and just win it all and beat UGA :). But I so agree, this man can coach and I would throw the bank at him. What he's done at Syracuse is amazing. I'm so impressed listening to him talk ball and he was on First team a week or two ago, ( days run together because I worked Harvey before Irma) but WOW i was blown away by him. Now don't get me lumped in with the fire butch crowd because I'm not there yet, but if it happens I hope the powers that be goes full out on Dino.

You have a Blessed Day!
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:hi: Thanks, man! Go Vols! (except on TSIO of course) God bless you and yours too!

:lol: I know the feeling. One of my sons is a Bama fan, the other an Auburn fan.

I think there are several very good realistic candidates for UT and I think y'all are in a position now to attract and land a very good coach. I hope y'all do.

I love CFB, especially SEC, and to me it's much more interesting and fun when the top SEC teams (UA, AU, LSU, TN, GA, FL) are all competitive with each other.
 
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AllforTenn said:
Remember Doug Dickey? Assistant and never head coach before hired. Built a solid program here, didn't he?
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I see your point, but I would also argue that the game has totally changed between now and 1964. Plus, I could name several coaches where that didn't work, one of which is the main reason this thread was started.
 
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dcm3w said:
I don't necessarily buy the Mullen quote. Yeah he may be comfortable there but he's not going to have consistent success of being at the top. Atleast at TN or FL, he would have the resources/recruiting to be top of the East year in and year out.
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What yall don't understand is what name coach in his right mind would wanna come to tenn with the bipolar fan base we have.We have crapped in our own shoes folks.
 
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Spook1 said:
:)Obviously Florida is going for Dan Mullen. Why not UT for Scott Frost? Frost is directly responsible for the success of Chip Kelly...forget Kelly go for Frost. He has a track record on offense and can improve QB's. The NFL Titans have a Frost produced QB. UT can afford him if our AD will get off his butt and do something.
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Florida is all out going for Frost, dunno where your info coming from about Mullen. Read up on Swamp gas forum
 
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