Official Jon Gruden Thread XXV

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Vol4ever said:
ESPN's main problem is getting into politics. You are a sports network but have turned yourselves into a politcal stand that most everyday folks dont agree with and the subscribership and sponsors are down thus the layoffs.


I do watch ESPN SEC channel but unless a SEC game is on I dont watch ESPN or ESPN2.
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Extension of the mouse, who's liking to butt their nose into politics as of late. Really not a fan of Disney anymore. At all.
 
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Today is a good day because we are one day closer to Gruden becoming our coach..tomorrow is an even better day because we are one more day closer and so forth...that said, the days will improve one by one..

SOON

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Sara Clark said:
While I don't understand why it is what it is. The Athletic departments don't usually have issues with the academia side of things. To the contrary, the Academics department for the most part doesn't get on board with Athletics, not all Athletics only certain programs such as football, Rugby, and I would include baseball to some degree in the group. UT Academia has always had a riff or disapproval if you will with any emphasis on sports. I work at a University, to some extent that is the case here. When my mother was in Veterinary School at UT...many years ago, she said it was going on then. Like many things in life, your priorities are usually dependent upon your occupation. It shouldn't be this way, but often times it is.
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Good post - but what you describe is true at nearly any University where Football or Basketball are a big part of the culture. There is a difference between friction and influence, however. Of course the academic side is jealous of the attention sports get. But deep down they also know, it helps to attract students and $'s for the broader university. In other words, they know there is a co-dependency, but just don't like that the don't get the same glamorous attention as their co-dependent. Does that create friction? Yes. Does that mean they want to the sports teams to be unsuccessful or to go away? Not if they have any sense.
 
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IN Jed said:
I have sincerely enjoyed following your processing of all this, but preacherwebb's lightbulb moment was essentially, 'it's a done deal...unless it's not'.
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No it wasn't. It was that what is true this moment may not be 5 minutes from now. There are many moving parts with many giant egos. Things can change in the blink of an eye. Take Sunday night for example.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
This thread needs more gifs, drinking, fishing, music, and hobby talk.

Idle hands are the devil's playthings....and when you guys don't get an hourly update to dissect you go full potato.

Enjoy the ride

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I would flat out shoot that sheep as soon as I dried off...Nice work boro...having a bad day and needed a good laugh
 
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IMO, UT probably floated an offer but Gruden didn't bite. If he had agreed then UT probably would have fired Jones and announced Gruden this past week. Without hiring someone who isn't under contract, UT has little reason not to ride it out until the end of the season or at least a couple more games.

The sickening possibility is that by keeping him UT may well lose 8 games for the first time ever in a season. USM is no gimme. Mizzou is awful on D but it doesn't take much to stop UT's O right now as demonstrated by UK and USCe. LSU is playing better and their D is just a rung below LSU... that game could get really ugly at home too.

Vandy has inferior players... but Mason is a MUCH better coach than Jones.... and that's not saying he's a good coach. With Jones, there is a very real possibility that UT will lose 3 or 4 more games this year.
 
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fishing Vol said:
If I am understanding, all of this, correctly; Gruden is really just another chess piece. He just happens to be our reward also. But the true battle lines are over the equality of power, between the academia and the athletic departments of the university. All of the "noise" and schemes and plots are pieces of the puzzle. But the bottom line is: who ends up with the power. Or at least will the academia be willing to sell their power. Am I heading down the correct path with all of this?
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This is what Bama did.And their scholarships and academics are light years better for it...Spot on..

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iamadoc said:
Agree 100%. This is a JG thread though. LOL
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Haha yeah I know. I'm a JG guy. I really think there is a strong possibility he's coming. And I take a hit at work from friends everyday for buying into it.

I just don't think it's a good look for the program, or any program for that matter. I can't see how that helps. Especially when we are all 99.9% he's not coming back next year.

I would rather the AD do what needs to be done behind the scenes to get a big hire than meet my timeline for what I feel is the appropriate time to fire a coach.

I put more emphasis on the hire than the timing of the fire.
 
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Basilio saying that UT is doing absolutely nothing and Currie is just a patsy in the whole situation. Haslam is in total control and is doing nothing.
 
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fishing Vol said:
If I am understanding, all of this, correctly; Gruden is really just another chess piece. He just happens to be our reward also. But the true battle lines are over the equality of power, between the academia and the athletic departments of the university. All of the "noise" and schemes and plots are pieces of the puzzle. But the bottom line is: who ends up with the power. Or at least will the academia be willing to sell their power. Am I heading down the correct path with all of this?
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IMHO it's not academia giving up power, it's about wanting more toys(lack of better word). academia and athletics neither will lose power nor gain. Player shift ? mmmm probably !
 
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Lovesomebigorange said:
Okay so maybe it isn't the academic side as has been said by MIT and many many others. So it has to be Haslam then? What else could it be? There is no freaking way we can have all this work and support and issues cleared out of the way and let one man in his eighties shoot this down. I'm sorry, he needs to be told we are deciding this and you may kindly step to the side. Currie doesn't need his support anymore- he would be the hero of this state by pulling off such a hire. If this is as close as many speculate, it cannot fail a second time.
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This is what I said earlier, if everyone is on board except Haslam, it doesn't matter how much money he has, Currie would be untouchable if he pulled off hiring Gruden.

That's why I wonder if Currie is really doing anything at all. Some things just don't add up to me and I'm starting to think we're about to be screwed again.
 
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Spoke to one of my guys in the AD this morning. If you remember I said that Butch would not coach USM and that came from a booster. That could still be in play but I would lean toward that being wrong. Whatever happened Sunday seems to have upset the apple cart. Now if you go back before that one of my AD guys said “we think it will be after bama”. Keep in mind that was opinion and things have been really tight. Oddly enough the guy I spoke to this morning called me last night and I missed the call. He left me a message to call him today. So that brings us up to said conversation this morning. We discussed things like empty Neyland which the general consensus is that is seen as a childish way to get attention. The reason being is that everyone involved knows exactly the pulse of the fan base. I also made the statement about John being a genius or inept to which he replied the former not the latter. Needless to say I asked about Butch being let go and people being afraid if somehow a miracle occurs has something changed that would allow him to stay. The answer was what is done is done. I asked about damaging TN by keeping him in place and Was told. It is far more damaging to remove a coach mid season and that lesson was learned with Phil. Another tid bit is that a lot of these guys come from fatherless homes and see Butch as a father figure like it or not it really hurts players regardless of what fans think. No further information was given and I did not press the issue I took it as what I have been told from the booster side he is done. We discussed multiple coaches and it was just two friends talking opinions. From that conversation I believe that no one is absolutely off the table. Now for all the cloak and dagger people it seems like information is starting to come out and I thought it interesting that I was contacted to “catch up”.
 
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'Boro-vol said:
This thread needs more gifs, drinking, fishing, music, and hobby talk.

Idle hands are the devil's playthings....and when you guys don't get an hourly update to dissect you go full potato.

Enjoy the ride

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Probably the most sane post of this thread yet 😎
 
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zydane47 said:
This is what I said earlier, if everyone is on board except Haslam, it doesn't matter how much money he has, Currie would be untouchable if he pulled off hiring Gruden.

That's why I wonder if Currie is really doing anything at all. Some things just don't add up to me and I'm starting to think we're about to be screwed again.
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Let's not forget though that the chairman of the board is our governor and haslam's son.
 
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