Official Jon Gruden Thread XXV

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Behr said:
Honestly?

I've been firm on this not happening, for several reasons.

I've put many pieces of info together, including personal info I've gathered.

Long story short. As of today, I absolutely believe there is a "deal" and Gruden is on board.

I also believe it can get blown up with a flip of a switch.
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This.
 
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VFLnSFD said:
I'm seriously confused about the vitriol towards the "academic side" of the university. Without strong academics we don't have billionaire boosters coming down the line. It is a circle that must be connected. No one wins by hating the academics.
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No insider info, just my opinion....

When the athletic side had to go to the academic side to get the amount of funds given reduced I think some boosters may have stepped up to cover the losses. I believe a power shift happened at that point with academics thinking they didn’t really need a strong athletics dept to provide funding. I think right now the issue has been getting the academics to realize the boosters are going to withdraw that support if athletics aren’t returned to the type of strength a Gruden hire will provide and showing them that available funds coming from athletics would increase with that hiring
 
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Sara Clark said:
While I don't understand why it is what it is. The Athletic departments don't usually have issues with the academia side of things. To the contrary, the Academics department for the most part doesn't get on board with Athletics, not all Athletics only certain programs such as football, Rugby, and I would include baseball to some degree in the group. UT Academia has always had a riff or disapproval if you will with any emphasis on sports. I work at a University, to some extent that is the case here. When my mother was in Veterinary School at UT...many years ago, she said it was going on then. Like many things in life, your priorities are usually dependent upon your occupation. It shouldn't be this way, but often times it is.
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The two entities must coexist. It's a codependent relationship. I think the academic side has a much harder time accepting that fact than the athletic side.

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MtnVol said:
Outsourcing Update | Office of the Chancellor

Don't know if this is relevant to anything but Hubbs felt it was important enough to retweet...
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Can't see the relevance right now, but there may be more to this than an old country boy as myself understands (not fully knowing the workings of the inner circle)

If Hubbs retweeted it, then there must be some significance.... maybe someone in the know can enlighten me
 
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VFLnSFD said:
And if you are still confused, check out preacherwebb's lightbulb moment he shared with us earlier.
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I have sincerely enjoyed following your processing of all this, but preacherwebb's lightbulb moment was essentially, 'it's a done deal...unless it's not'.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
I have said it before and I will say it again...

I realize that I mean absolutely nothing in the great scheme of things. I am sure there are a bunch of sunshine pumping "Real Fans" that would love to see the likes of me go. That being said if Currie continues to drag this out through what I honestly believe will be a winless rest of the season only to end up marching out yet another Google search guy or god forbid retaining Jones, I am done with Tennessee football.

Tennessee should have seen the writing on the wall ten years ago when our biggest historical rival was investing into their program and building the dominant monster they are today. Instead of doing whatever it took to at least try to remain competitive our program chose to not only go cheap but also seemingly intentionally shoot itself in the foot at every turn. All of this has conditioned the fanbase to accept mediocrity and be ecstatic with simply being bowl eligible each year. I'm sorry but I'm from the generation that making a bowl game every season was a given. Hell, we used to be angry for not making a good enough bowl. Now we hand out contact extensions to coaches if they get us to the Summer's Eve Bowl.

Meanwhile Alabama keeps on dominating.
Meanwhile Georgia seems to have taken the next step.
Meanwhile Tennessee loses to Kentucky and continues to cling to Jones and show him more patience than they did a coach who actually won real championships here.


Mr. Currie, if you truly care about winning and getting Tennessee back to where it needs to be, it's time to do whatever it's going to take to make the hire to get it done.

1. Kindly send Butch Jones on his way.
2. Hire Jon effing Gruden.
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Well Said!
Wish I could give this more likes.
This is pretty much exactly how I feel.

I'm holding on to the hope that JG to the Hill actually happens.

Great Post Doyle.
 
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After watching Gruden in that interview yesterday I feel like he believes he is definitely going to be on a field next year. I can only hope that it is Shields-Watkins!
 
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If I am understanding, all of this, correctly; Gruden is really just another chess piece. He just happens to be our reward also. But the true battle lines are over the equality of power, between the academia and the athletic departments of the university. All of the "noise" and schemes and plots are pieces of the puzzle. But the bottom line is: who ends up with the power. Or at least will the academia be willing to sell their power. Am I heading down the correct path with all of this?
 
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Skizer41 said:
In my opinion #EmptyNeyland is a terrible movement. I think it hurts recruiting of players and future coaches as much as our performance this year.

I just think it sends a message that if things are good we're all in. If things are bad you're on your own. Just my thoughts. I'm sure I'll get blasted for this.
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Agree 100%. This is a JG thread though. LOL
 
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fishing Vol said:
If I am understanding, all of this, correctly; Gruden is really just another chess piece. He just happens to be our reward also. But the true battle lines are over the equality of power, between the academia and the athletic departments of the university. All of the "noise" and schemes and plots are pieces of the puzzle. But the bottom line is: who ends up with the power. Or at least will the academia be willing to sell their power. Am I heading down the correct path with all of this?
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You nailed it
 
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lateknight said:
After watching Gruden in that interview yesterday I feel like he believes he is definitely going to be on a field next year. I can only hope that it is Shields-Watkins!
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Yes. He's either going to be at the University of Tennessee coaching, or an NFL team. I don't care what tie he's wearing. He's not going to Florida or any other college. You can rest assured of that.
 
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Coastypop said:
Can't see the relevance right now, but there may be more to this than an old country boy as myself understands (not fully knowing the workings of the inner circle)

If Hubbs retweeted it, then there must be some significance.... maybe someone in the know can enlighten me
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I'm in the same boat as you haha. My mind went to maybe freeing up more money to hire a coach? Just taking a guess and reading into it.
 
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Okay so maybe it isn't the academic side as has been said by MIT and many many others. So it has to be Haslam then? What else could it be? There is no freaking way we can have all this work and support and issues cleared out of the way and let one man in his eighties shoot this down. I'm sorry, he needs to be told we are deciding this and you may kindly step to the side. Currie doesn't need his support anymore- he would be the hero of this state by pulling off such a hire. If this is as close as many speculate, it cannot fail a second time.
 
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