Recruiting Forum Talk XXXIX

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#1,851
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JG holds the ball at his waist, gets the ball knocked away from him and ran into multiple sacks. But please tell me more about this pocket presence he has.
 
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Ah yes, coaching search time.


The time when everybody who has a friend on the grounds crew, in the facilities department, or cleaning bathrooms in the Anderson Training Center suddenly has an inside source in the AD.




Just remember VN, almost nobody on here is as connected as they think they are.
 
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HankHill said:
And I still stood behind it. QD did good things against GT and Florida. If JG is the starter from day one I don’t see our record being any different. I’ve said all along I think either QB is very good.
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QD had two nice throws against GT and 2/3 that should have been picked off. Wasn't good against UF at all. You're seeing what you want to see.


I do agree that our record would probably be the same either way. Just think that, in hindsight, we probably should have been doing more to bring along the guy with upside.



HankHill said:
No you’re just a JG fanboy.
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Go back and read my post history. I was all for QD getting the job all offseason (though I'd have been fine either way really). Even argued with QD a good bit over it.

I just wasn't as willing to dig in and admit I was wrong once his limitations became painfully obvious.
 
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HankHill said:
JG holds the ball at his waist, gets the ball knocked away from him and ran into multiple sacks. But please tell me more about this pocket presence he has.
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He definitely needs to work on where he holds the ball and getting rid of the ball more quickly.


But he stood tall in the pocket against a pass rush and not thrown wobblers off his back foot more times in one game against USCe than QD has in the 4/5 games he's played all season.
 
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HankHill said:
JG holds the ball at his waist, gets the ball knocked away from him and ran into multiple sacks. But please tell me more about this pocket presence he has.
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That should've already been coached out of him. But even the great Dobbs was coached up mechanically.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
QD had two nice throws against GT and 2/3 that should have been picked off. Wasn't good against UF at all. You're seeing what you want to see.


I do agree that our record would probably be the same either way. Just think that, in hindsight, we probably should have been doing more to bring along the guy with upside.





Go back and read my post history. I was all for QD getting the job all offseason (though I'd have been fine either way really). Even argued with QD a good bit over it.

I just wasn't as willing to dig in and admit I was wrong once his limitations became painfully obvious.
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The TD pass to Wolfe in the corner against UF is the best throw any qb has made this year.
 
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SSVol said:
You see what you want to see. I saw zero touchdowns. I saw a QB run out of bounds 10 yards behind the LOS when he could have easily thrown it away. I saw a QB hold the ball too long and take sacks.

I agree that he can be better. My point stands. Y'all blame QD for QD, and Butch for JG. Nate Peterman sucked all the way to the NFL.
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The difference between the two is pretty clear. Already stated it. No reason to debate it. Pretty simple really
 
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DD4ME said:
I see UT making a run at Gruden to appease the fan base and him graciously turning us down for PR. I would be tickled with a Frost hire, but I worry about Nebraska making a run at him if we wait. Brohm feels a lot like a Butch hire. Could be better but way less proven.
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If he's smart he'll want nothing to do with Nebraska.

Its just impossible to get the caliber of players you need to win championships over there. He would need to be outcoaching people to win championships over there. And that is hard.

We should be able to beat out Nebraska by selling him on our far better recruiting landscape. Middle Tennessee is not only booming and turning Tennessee into a recruiting hotbed. But we're also less than than 3 hour car ride from Atlanta and Charlotte. He would be able to build a superpower at Tennessee. Can't say the same about Nebraska.

I just wonder if our administration is smart enough to do this sales job. And yes it will require a sales job to land Scott Frost cause right now he looks like he'll be as highly sought after as Tom Herman was last year.
 
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Tennessee Golfer said:
The more I think about it, the more I’m talking myself into Frost being my #1 want.
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It's crazy. I'm almost to the point to where other than a dream scenario with Gruden or Kelly, Frost is my number one guy. I'd take him over Mullen all day. Not sure if I'd take him over Patterson or not but I can make an argument that for the long term Frost would be a better hire.
 
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HankHill said:
JG holds the ball at his waist, gets the ball knocked away from him and ran into multiple sacks. But please tell me more about this pocket presence he has.
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He doesn't back pedal and panic throw all the time. He's got better presence than QD. He's got plenty of issues, but he has much more poise in the face of pressure.
 
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Aesius said:
I think we're going to get lucky and land Scott Satterfield despite the administration's best efforts to screw us.
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Fyp. No but Frost would fit the bill...

He's not too expensive. He's young and energetic. He's seems to run a clean program. He must value academics to be top 15 APR. He's clearly got a good offensive scheme.

The only cons I can think of is no coaching experience in a big league, which is a big question mark.
 
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November Blue said:
JG will never run it like Dobbs could.
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Nobody outside of Lamar Jackson can run like Dobbs right now.

He's a genetatinal talent when it came to running the ball as a QB. Not only in terms of his elusiveness but also his durability. Its amazing how he never even got hit that hard to have to miss a play or two in a game. He always found a way to not take a big hit. And he also ran with surprising power given his size.

Runners like Dobbs don't come around very often. Fans should be glad they got to witness what he did here at Tennessee. Cause it'll be a long time before you see someone like him ever again.
 
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I like you Hank but you defending QD in any way should be the starter is killing me. Also, once they had film on this offense then even UMASS knew how to attack it. The OL is killing us. If QD had a line where he could just sit back like the O and W game basically then he can make throws but he can't handle live bullets with any kind of pressure.

When I saw him throw the pass to a covered guy instead of running it again UMASS then I knew that he just does not like being hit. May have been due to injury he got in high school but you can't play football like that at any position on the field and have success.
 
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HankHill said:
The TD pass to Wolfe in the corner against UF is the best throw any qb has made this year.
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True.

But QD has also had 95 more pass attempts than JG and a whole offseason getting the lion's share of the 1st team reps. And other than that throw (and the one TD to Callaway against GT), he's been late or behind receivers far, far too often.


JG has at least shown he can hit guys in stride (though does need to work on his touch passing). He should come along with more experience. He's been in the program 1/3 the time as the guy staring down WRs and throwing late wobblers behind his WRs.
 
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