40% Millennials Okay Limiting Free Speech

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My daughter called me the other day panicking. She asked me if that black thing is missing where you put air in your tire. She was worried her tire was gonna go flat.

Bad parenting I know.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That is what has been pushed in business schools and by corporations over the last 30 years. Managers rarely come up throught the ranks anymore and learn the core competencies of their business. Instead, they pull people from unrelated business units to run things. Again, you blame the kids for not having any skills when the business paradigm in this country caters to people who run business units they don't understand.
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From an engineering perspective I butted heads with management types for years, and that was even before things reached a more crisis level with the flood of business degrees and no experience. It is almost impossible to explain to someone having no experience beyond dollars and time why one thing will work and the other won't, and why some marketing people needed to get their heads out of their butts and deal with what is possible and what is snake oil.

At some point, I have no doubt that VW's debacle was management saying "you will" and engineers saying "you can't", and the final arbiter being somebody's job or bonus for meeting goals. It's really difficult to be on the same page and reach sound decisions if all parties don't have enough common knowledge of the topic to speak a common language.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
You've just pointed out one of the main issues without realizing it. These companies today are no different than these kids' parents. They don't want to invest the time and effort to make them better. 30-40 years ago, you had apprenticeship programs, vocational schools and companies that actually spent the time and money to invest in human capital. But nowadays, just like their parents, these companies want a finished product and don't want the inconvenience of actually having to put in the work to guide and mold young people... but they blame the millenials anyways.
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I agree with Ras, and if anyone knows our history that is saying something.

I am the type of person companies are looking for. Didn't start that way. Typical qualification requirements I see are bs:

We want someone with 5 years of experience who can run a project but willing to work at entry level pay.

its a joke.

My work took a risk on me, same no nothing millennial that came in behind and before me. at the time I was the youngest person in the office by a good decade. Thankfully my boss was willing to train me and work with me. so that five years later I can run projects. I am not perfect at it and mess up a lot, but it took training from them. most companies don't do that. they don't want to work on developing an employee and take a couple lumps. Now just 5 years later our business is booming and we are hiring millennials left and right knowing we have to train them (scary thing is its me a millennial training them).

the issue I am running into now is they want me to get my license. yet they aren't willing to work with me to get it. they aren't holding me back, but they won't give me time off to take the test, it has to be vacation. they only pay for the testing afterwards. when you are being paid barely above poverty line its hard to justify 7 300 dollar tests, assuming you don't have to retake any. the job also already takes 10+ hours a day, and we get yelled at for not getting enough work done. and now you want me to do even more on top of that?
 
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AirVol said:
My daughter called me the other day panicking. She asked me if that black thing is missing where you put air in your tire. She was worried her tire was gonna go flat.

Bad parenting I know.
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Don’t feel bad. In college I had to help a guy easily in his mid 40’s change a flat tire. He was trying to lift the back end with one arm and turn the lugs with the other.
 
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tumscalcium said:
Collectively they are. Some individuals stand out. I work with a guy who is almost 50. That guy needs to just go. He’s the worst person I work with, so ****ing lazy. But he’s not like the other older guys. The younger guys? A couple are great, most are worthless.
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Its getting so bad that I know companies that has many subsidiaries, not a large group or anything. But what they do is now collectively share information as to new employees, meaning they use stats to see what is working and not working, generalized stuff.

One of the things they track is the name of the college they attended. So, what they are doing is evaluating colleges and sometimes using as a factor which college -- meaning the snowflake colleges are now a negative factor on a resume.
 
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Based on my experience, there is NO doubt that many millennials have a absurd sense of entitlement

But I still question the definition of millennial. The older millennials and younger millennials are very different IMO
 
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AirVol said:
My daughter called me the other day panicking. She asked me if that black thing is missing where you put air in your tire. She was worried her tire was gonna go flat.

Bad parenting I know.
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I work on my own car and generally to everything around my house. But my sister probably wouldn't even know how to open the hood on her car. The sexes are very different
 
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golfballs said:
Based on my experience, there is NO doubt that many millennials have a absurd sense of entitlement

But I still question the definition of millennial. The older millennials and younger millennials are very different IMO
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I have two millennial daughters 4 years apart. The oldest is much more conservative, but she also has a couple of kids.
I think in a few years when the millennials start having families, they will see life differently and all of this PC and entitlement crap will fall by the way side.
 
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I sometimes do stuff around the house. But financially, it makes more sense for me to pay someone and use my time to work. That way I can continue paying off a bunch of boomers pensions and unfunded liabilities that they dumped on their children. Worthless pricks.
 
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weezy said:
i rarely do stuff around the house. But financially, it makes more sense for me to lay around and use my time to play video games. That way i can continue paying my parents nothing to live in their basement. When i'm old my unfunded liabilities will be dumped on my children. Worthless prick i am.
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It was factually accurate. You got anecdotal evidence. I have $20T in debt with a bunch of boomers name on it.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
Don’t feel bad. In college I had to help a guy easily in his mid 40’s change a flat tire. He was trying to lift the back end with one arm and turn the lugs with the other.
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A Vandy grad was he? You know how many Vandy grads it takes to change a tire? Four...Three to mix the drinks and one to call Daddy.
 
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VolStrom said:
I have two millennial daughters 4 years apart. The oldest is much more conservative, but she also has a couple of kids.
I think in a few years when the millennials start having families, they will see life differently and all of this PC and entitlement crap will fall by the way side.
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I agree, and it's really disturbing that we thought it was a great idea to lower the voting age. We should have raised it in hopes that the maturity gained from having to make a living would prevent wild idealism from doing even more damage through irresponsible liberalism.
 
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AM64 said:
I agree, and it's really disturbing that we thought it was a great idea to lower the voting age. We should have raised it in hopes that the maturity gained from having to make a living would prevent wild idealism from doing even more damage through irresponsible liberalism.
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But you're okay with sending the same kids to war?
 
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DocVOLiday said:
This. I'm 25 and can survive because my parents made me do stuff all the time growing up (just as their parents made them)

(I say survive loosely, more in terms of doing tasks as mentioned in the op)
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This X50! Parenting is what it all comes down to. Parenting though has become significantly tougher over the years with our society changing. The fact that we have to think twice about disciplining our kids these days because someone might see it as wrong is just that..... absolutely wrong.

We have a tough ability of teaching these kids what is right and wrong and wonder why they show disrespect to cops and can't obey the law.

The school systems try their hardest to not fail kids, if they do fail the parents blame it on the school system. We are caught up in everyone getting participation trophies. Kids aren't taught anymore about failure and how to deal with it. No matter how much we try to shield these kids from failure it WILL happen. Failure is part of life how do we expect these kids to pick themselves up off the ground if they have never been knocked down! I was fortunate to have a father who let me fail more times than I can count and in large life situations. Guess what: He let me fail, let me pull myself up and once it was all said and done gave me guidance on how I could go about it better next time. New age parenting has lost complete sight of this.

We get caught up in giving our kids everything and trying to give them the life we (may or may not) have ever had growing up. In that we fail to ever teach them any kind of work ethic. So many are getting to be in their early to mid 20's and are still solely dependent on their parents (I personally know of several of these cases).

The new worst is technology. Instead of kids being raised by TV's and video games they are being raised by something much worse and that is tablets. I remember the talks of unplug the nintendo and go outside. You could easily get away from the situation. The tablet can always follow. How many games and talks did I have with my dad on long car rides to pass the time. Nowadays hand them the tablet and they will be quiet most of the time. We better start developing thousands of computer related jobs here in the next decade because the tablet/entertainment at our fingertips kids will be flooding the job market. Most of these kids will not have social skills and will not have the emotional capacity to search out something that is not provided right in front of their face.

Then you throw all of that in with social media that is something us as adults have a tough time with let alone young impressionable kids.

The millenials and future generations are all being brought on through bad parenting (which in reality is seen as good parenting) and relying on technological advancements.

Sorry for the long diatribe. As I am about to step into parenthood it is tough to not look at what's going around us and start developing in my mind how we are going to raise our kids. I have said multiple times that I would like to raise them as if we were living in the 40's/50's.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
This is the difference between being raised in a "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me" environment and a "words hurt" environment.


Millennials are the worst.
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There needs to be a better definition of millennial. I was born in 1987 which, unfortunately, puts me firmly in the "millennial" category. Growing up, especially in elementary and middle school, I heard "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me" all the time. "I am rubber glue - whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you" was another popular one. Kids would say it to each other when they got made fun of, teachers would say it to kids when they complained that somebody made fun of them, etc. I also have never received a participation trophy in my life for anything, sports or otherwise.

The real problem behavior/attitudes, IMO, are with these so called "digital native" kids born from about the mid-90s onward. The kids that have no idea what it is like to walk around without the internet in your pocket.
 
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Smokey'sHandler said:
This X50! Parenting is what it all comes down to. Parenting though has become significantly tougher over the years with our society changing. The fact that we have to think twice about disciplining our kids these days because someone might see it as wrong is just that..... absolutely wrong.

We have a tough ability of teaching these kids what is right and wrong and wonder why they show disrespect to cops and can't obey the law.

The school systems try their hardest to not fail kids, if they do fail the parents blame it on the school system. We are caught up in everyone getting participation trophies. Kids aren't taught anymore about failure and how to deal with it. No matter how much we try to shield these kids from failure it WILL happen. Failure is part of life how do we expect these kids to pick themselves up off the ground if they have never been knocked down! I was fortunate to have a father who let me fail more times than I can count and in large life situations. Guess what: He let me fail, let me pull myself up and once it was all said and done gave me guidance on how I could go about it better next time. New age parenting has lost complete sight of this.

We get caught up in giving our kids everything and trying to give them the life we (may or may not) have ever had growing up. In that we fail to ever teach them any kind of work ethic. So many are getting to be in their early to mid 20's and are still solely dependent on their parents (I personally know of several of these cases).

The new worst is technology. Instead of kids being raised by TV's and video games they are being raised by something much worse and that is tablets. I remember the talks of unplug the nintendo and go outside. You could easily get away from the situation. The tablet can always follow. How many games and talks did I have with my dad on long car rides to pass the time. Nowadays hand them the tablet and they will be quiet most of the time. We better start developing thousands of computer related jobs here in the next decade because the tablet/entertainment at our fingertips kids will be flooding the job market. Most of these kids will not have social skills and will not have the emotional capacity to search out something that is not provided right in front of their face.

Then you throw all of that in with social media that is something us as adults have a tough time with let alone young impressionable kids.

The millenials and future generations are all being brought on through bad parenting (which in reality is seen as good parenting) and relying on technological advancements.

Sorry for the long diatribe. As I am about to step into parenthood it is tough to not look at what's going around us and start developing in my mind how we are going to raise our kids. I have said multiple times that I would like to raise them as if we were living in the 40's/50's.
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I agree. It is difficult being a parent today as I have a 16 year old son. My best teaching tool has been using 20 to 25 year old Millennials to illustrate what NOT to do and how NOT to act.
 
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MR_VOL said:
I agree. It is difficult being a parent today as I have a 16 year old son. My best teaching tool has been using 20 to 25 year old Millennials to illustrate what NOT to do and how NOT to act.
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I use stories like that as well. I also try to teach my kids practical stuff all the time. It’s really shocking to me how many kids I know who can’t pump gas, start a lawnmower, change a light bulb, etc. Mine are all girls, but try and teach them this stuff.
 
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I have 3 between the ages of 14 and 22. The biggest change I've seen in the 8 years since my oldest was 14 is in the use of social media and its effect. (90% of the advancements in digital technology have had a negative impact on youth) Technological advancement has far outpaced societies ability to adequately adapt and insure that the advancements are used in a positive way.
 
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